But aren't you the same Rob Jarvis that used the name "Killabite", to make a third record even though Ben sims (who played a large part in the other records) asked you not to? I must admit, the work on that record would fall into the "tracky" Swedish category as well. If that sound is bastardizing techno, I think you're at fault as well...
D -----Original Message----- From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant) Hmmm. Steady on there, i can't believe some are comparing Derrick Mays - Wiggin / nude photo to the over produced blandness of Adam Beyer's drum code series. or am i wrong? yes i do fall into the to the older (elitist) generation, the reason for maturing away from techno is because the "tracky" Swedish sound has bastardised MY interpretation of real Techno. labels like Transmat set the standard for ME. The rest can follow.... i'll still dip my toe in a bit, the 'new' techno by listening to stuff from Umek, Carola...but it just doesn't do it for me....maybe it's the strings. ...phew! loads to say on this.... I'll be back ;-) Rob Jarvis. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback > From: "Toby Frith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Telegraph Group Limited > Reply-To: "Toby Frith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:54:40 -0000 > To: "spw" <It really is one of the most misunderstood and hated >> electronic music genres out there, I would attribute the lack >> of interest to the popularity of house and trance and the >> older >> (elitist) generation maturing away from techno to other >> forms >> of electronic music. (i.e., IDM, Larry Heard, Broken Beat, >> Moodyman, "soulful" house, electro, ect..) >> One of the major dance ma>, <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant) > > "How is Drumcode really that different than Mayday, Wiggin > (one of the first techno records) or Nude Photo?" > > That's a big can of worms you're opening there. > > > > **************************************************************************** > ******* > This e-mail is from Telegraph Group Ltd. - 1 Canada Square, Canary Wharf, > London E14 5DT. > Registered in England No 0451593. > This message, its contents and any attachments to it, are private and > confidential. Any > unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination of the whole or any part of > this message (without > our prior consent in writing) is prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient of this message > please notify us immediately. No contracts may be concluded on behalf of > Telegraph Group > Limited by means of email. > **************************************************************************** > ******* > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "spw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: 12 February 2003 14:04 > Subject: Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant) > > >> It's sad how a lot of people have turned their backs on >> techno. >> It really is one of the most misunderstood and hated >> electronic music genres out there, I would attribute the lack >> of interest to the popularity of house and trance and the >> older >> (elitist) generation maturing away from techno to other >> forms >> of electronic music. (i.e., IDM, Larry Heard, Broken Beat, >> Moodyman, "soulful" house, electro, ect..) >> One of the major dance mags should dedicate an entire issue >> to >> 'techno' highlighting some of the established techno talent >> like Carola, and the few surviving techno artist from Detroit >> like T1000 still creating >> "Detroit techno" of course also the new up and coming >> talent >> from >> around the World you dont hear much about making techno >> for the 21'st Century. >> Some guy once told me 'techno' no longer resembles the >> early Detroit techno sound. >> How is Drumcode really that different than Mayday, Wiggin >> (one of the first techno records) or Nude Photo? >> They are both repetitive track based DJ Tools oriented >> electronic music based >> in minimalism, abstraction, and futurism. >> People like Robert Hood are one of the few Detroit schooled >> techno artist still making techno records. >> >>> http://www.gothamgrooves.com/newsletter/feb-03/T-1000Intvw.html >>> >>> Not sure if this has been posted already.... >>> >>> >>> www.bleep43.com >> >> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:28 -0500 > To: "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: (313) t-1000 interview (techno rant) > > not everyone looks to techno for "soul" in the way that you > mean it. the fact that it lacks this "soul" is refreshing > to a great number of people. this list is pretty > unrealistic however, and reknowned for exactly that. > > > > > >> "How is Drumcode really that different than Mayday, > Wiggin >> (one of the first techno records) or Nude Photo?" >> >> That's a big can of worms you're opening there. > > Too right - I thought this might even be a bit of trolling. > There is a TOTAL > F*CKING DIFFERENCE between the majority of identikit > 'techno' records coming > out on these labels today and the classics you mentioned. > They represented > the FIRST TIME those particular sequences had been > programmed, the first > time that vibe had been attained. The pumping loops 'scene' > has about as > much soul and charisma as a bag of lard. > > There, I said it! > > No disrespect, but I was pretty annoyed when I read in the > T1000 interview > that > > "as a Techno DJ, you basically rely on records by a small > stable of artists > like Marco [Carola], Oliver [Ho], Jeff [Mills], Surgeon, > Christian [Smith] > and a few others. I just can't see having to carry that > many records where > it would be an issue." > > I just think this is absurd - if techno is to be defined as > this loops > sub-genre, we may as well kiss the whole thing goodbye! > > With respect, > Andrew >
