Hmmm... 
I'm guessing that if a bad Techno record is mixed at a party while geeks are
discussing it, that makes it Detroit.

Rob Jarvis

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> From: Ralf Gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:34:37 +1300
> To: "'Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd.'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: RE: (313) playlists and conversations (changing topic)
> 
> im confused now...does the year or the music make the techno good or bad, or
> does it all hinge on the geeks discussion...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2003 2:24 a.m.
> To: Ralf Gill; 313 Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: (313) playlists and conversations (changing topic)
> 
> 
> LOL.
> that's more like it. discussing a geek's party is quite geeky in itself.
> and as we all know there are good discussions and bad discussions. (2003)
> 
> Rob Jarvis
> 
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> London
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> pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta +
> u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic +
> radio sonic + neon + feedback
> 
>> From: Ralf Gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 01:49:18 +1300
>> To: "'Brendan Nelson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'313@hyperreal.org'"
>> <313@hyperreal.org>
>> Subject: RE: (313) playlists and conversations (changing topic)
>> 
>> Yeah, but sometimes it makes the bad party more relevant, like I went to a
>> party in 1983, by the time I stopped it was 1994, and although the party
> and
>> all the people looked totally out-dated, when we told the hospital the
> year
>> they said it was cool because they could see how i ended up like this...
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2003 1:41 a.m.
>> To: Ralf Gill; ::); 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: RE: (313) playlists and conversations (changing topic)
>> 
>> 
>> That's not relevant! As we all know, there are just good parties and bad
>> parties. Discussing when they actually happen is fuggin geeked out... :)
>> 
>> | -----Original Message-----
>> | From: Ralf Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> | Sent: 18 February 2003 12:42
>> | To: '::)'; '313@hyperreal.org'
>> | Subject: RE: (313) playlists and conversations (changing topic)
>> | 
>> | 
>> | 
>> | 
>> | -----Original Message-----
>> | From: ::) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> | Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2003 1:40 a.m.
>> | To: 313 Mailing List
>> | Subject: Re: (313) playlists and conversations (changing topic)
>> | 
>> | 
>> | 
>> | This party, what year was it ?
>> | 
>> | 
>> | >ok so hi
>> | 
>> | >we should end this and talk about something else.
>> | 
>> | what about the new hawtin and vath album?  I never heard
>> | anyone talk about
>> | it
>> | 
>> | anyone wanna have a party?
>> | 
>> | 
>> | -Joe
>> | 
>> | 
>> | ----- Original Message -----
>> | From: "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> | To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "James Bucknell"
>> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Mailing List"
>> | <313@hyperreal.org>
>> | Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:29 AM
>> | Subject: Re: (313) playlists and conversations
>> | 
>> | 
>> | > Well, maybe there is an interesting point here. Do tracks just stand
>> | alone,
>> | > without any context in time? I personally like to know when
>> | a track was
>> | > done, it gives me an idea of how the artist was affected by
>> | the scene
>> | > surrounding them, and the influences that are at play.
>> | >
>> | > I have tracks that are wicked for the time, but now sound a a little
>> | dated.
>> | > They still retain some of their original power,  but now
>> | can be seen as
>> | > important advances for their respective times. Maybe the
>> | dispute arose
>> | over
>> | > listing years that are quite recent? Seeing tracklistings
>> | with (2001),
>> | > (2000), or (1998) in them might look overly anal, but still
>> | I like to
>> | trace
>> | > an artist's development, so for me it's important information.
>> | >
>> | > Just my tuppence,
>> | >
>> | > Andrew
>> | >
>> | >
>> | > ----- Original Message -----
>> | > From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> | > To: "James Bucknell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313
>> | > Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org>
>> | > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:16 PM
>> | > Subject: RE: (313) playlists and conversations
>> | >
>> | >
>> | > > Now we are going to argue about putting years of tracks
>> | on tracklists,
>> | or
>> | > > not - I had thought I'd seen the further limits of
>> | triviality on this
>> | > list,
>> | > > till now!!
>> | > >
>> | > > ¦-D
>> | > >
>> | > > >-----Original Message-----
>> | > > >From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> | > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:12 AM
>> | > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Mailing List
>> | > > >Subject: Re: (313) playlists and conversations
>> | > > >
>> | > > >
>> | > > >the reason for putting the year of release in a track
>> | listing is the
>> | same
>> | > > >reason that track listings mention the artist, title,
>> | record label and
>> | > mix.
>> | > > >it's information that is useful for those that want to
>> | track it down.
>> | > > >james
>> | > > >
>> | > > >
>> | > > >> |
>> | > > >> |
>> | > > >> | > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> | > > >> | > Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 07:29:39 -0500
>> | > > >> | > To: 313@hyperreal.org
>> | > > >> | > Subject: (313) playlists and conversations
>> | > > >> | >
>> | > > >> | > For the person giving the years on his playlists,
>> | isnt that very
>> | > > >> | > fuggin geeked out? and all these techno
>> | conversation about what
>> | is
>> | > > >> | > techno, they all suck.  Go to Submerge or
>> | something and ask mike
>> | > > >> | > banks.    The basic fact is there is good music
>> | and bad, and
>> | > > >> | > acoustic music and electronic music.  Thats it.
>> | Cant you guys go
>> | > > >> | > back to talking about new records and old
>> | records????? what is
>> | this
>> | > > >> | > shiznit? You guys bore everyone!  And of course
>> | Missy Elliot is
>> | at
>> | > > >> | > least a little techno.  That isnt just hand drums
>> | behind her
>> | > > >> | > vocals.  And Adam beyer is also techno, its just
>> | pounding.  Its
>> | > > >> | > obviously not Rhythim is Rhythim , but no
>> | disrespect.  Id rather
>> | > > >> | > use this list to find out dj dates for Derrick May
>> | or any other
>> | > > >> | > non-half-azzed dj, so if anybody knows, where and
>> | when is Derrick
>> | > > >> | > playing, in the US or abroad??? And everybody quit
>> | the shiznit,
>> | > > >> | > save it for your toilets
>> | > > >> |
>> | > > >> |
>> | > > >>
>> | > > >
>> | >
>> | 

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