Just a small point, but the "display case" pic is in Barcelona, and indeed, he was seeking what kind of reaction he would get from "normal" passers by from seeing a man in a shop windon doing all that (what may be completely alien to some) stuff.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 January 2004 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Ploegmakers, Joost; Katrin Richter Subject: RE: (313) Jeff "Milestone" Mills Yussel, I think you've missed the point. It's a play on the idea of exhibitionism and the idea that you get to see inside of him - he's putting himself on display. If you look at the pictures on the CD/EVE a bit closer you'll see that the "image" isn't some wax sculpture - it's actually Jeff Mills. He hasn't "entombed his image in a museum type display case" at all- it's a store front window. Check out what is going to be on the DVD and you might begin to understand why it's called Exhibitionist and why placing himself in a store display window is a decent graphic representation of the project. In addition - the DVD was filmed in Detroit - not Germany or anywhere else that he could have done it. It doesn't make me ill at all - I think it's fantastic and the DVD sounds brilliant. Can't wait to get my paws on it. MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] et To: "Ploegmakers, Joost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Katrin Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org 01/16/04 05:04 PM Subject: RE: (313) Jeff "Milestone" Mills hope this doesn't make you more ill (iller?) http://sonar.es/portal/eng/home.cfm seems as though Katrin's estimation was dead on as Mr. Mills has now entombed his image in a museum type display case. I gotta say- on the one hand I don't agree with this particular direction for techno. Nor do I agree that Mills is the right person to take it in this direction (given the state of his current live performances) BUT, I do feel a bit more respect knowing that his actions (misguided or not) do have a definate purpose, rather than just egocentric flights of fancy. but that still doesn't explain why he refuse to let the sound guy keep him from distorting bassbins. On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Ploegmakers, Joost wrote: > Well, > > I never thought this was possible, but reading your mail just made me physically sick. > > I could comment on every single sentence, but I won't. I'm just too upset. If what you are writing are actually truly the things that are going on in Mr. Mills mind, I will never want anything to do with him ever again. What an arrogant elitist artsy fartsy wannabe prick! > I sincerely hope Jeff übermensch Mills will come to his senses soon enough. Or that this is all not true of course. > > > Joost > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: donderdag 15 januari 2004 17:04 > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: (313) Jeff "Milestone" Mills > > > > > > When I met Jeff, he was a very nice caring person who was > > deeply concerned about the direction Techno was taking in > > Germany (!). He felt that he and Dimitri Hegemann from Tresor > > did a bad job back in the early Nineties because he pleaded > > guilty for conditioning people to consume Techno in dark > > boxes full of fog and strobes and didn't consider making it > > nicer for girls (which is, in his opinion, the reason why > > there are not so many girls embracing Techno)... > > > > We had a really long discussion and he admitted that he > > sometimes feels really removed from his audience. He said > > he'd never consume drugs because he would hate to put his > > company - and the people working for him - at risk... > > > > I don't think he is greedy... I think he is striving to be a > > real "artist", > > sound- and concept-wise, that is accepted by "educated" > > people. This is, in my opinion, the reason, why he tries to > > employ these pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-philosophical > > thoughts on his sleeves written in bad English (which of > > course, are more expensive to make). Although he has done > > Metropolis and a lot of groundbreaking other projects, he is > > not really really accepted in the realms of high art, > > especially not in North America where a Techno artist would > > never reach the status of social acceptance he longs for. In > > Europe and Japan, people roll out the red carpet... here, he > > is the person who single-handedly established Techno in > > Berlin (well, at least that's what Dimi and Jeff both want to > > believe - themselves - and which is impossible to prove or disprove). > > > > I guess the things I just mentioned are integral parts of his > > personality and that might explain why he tries to make his > > label a sought-after commodity rather than being down with > > the locals. Drug-mongering simple minds are just not his > > thang as he was working hard enough to transcend this stage > > of low human existance and I think he likes to see himself as > > a man of class and style - certainly the way he dresses and > > the hotels he chooses. > > > > Okay, that was the psychological analysis from da Kat :) who > > sat on the mat and is a big fan of Jeff as a human. I > > wouldn't buy See The Light but I certainly would buy the flip > > flips in his shop (and even the Axis beach > > towel) if I had the money spare. > > > > I love supporting people... > > > > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Gesendet: > > Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2004 16:03 > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > > Betreff: Re: (313) axis > > > > > > > > > > >But what if he and others in his position could take it further than > > >that! > > > > >Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall), > > >seminars, clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the > > >game. > > > > > > Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It's called Musik und > > Machine. http://www.musikundmaschine.com/index_flash.html > > > > not many other individual artists have done this so I think > > Jeff is actually on the forefront of doing exactly what > > you're asking him to do. > > > > > > MEK > > > > > *************************************************************************************** Opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not Entergy-Koch Trading Limited or its affiliated companies. 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