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Cc: "313 list" <313@hyperreal.org>; "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Tortured Soul!?!


> Good points - I recall bringing this up a few years ago. That is, how you
> can listen to an artists records and think - I'd love to hear this person
> DJ - but then you go see them DJ and their spinning style is totally
> different. Sort of what happened when I saw Funk D'Void at DEMF. I love
> Technoir and was hoping for some of that funky deep sound like Herbie on
> Rhodes and V-Ger. Of course I was expecting harder stuff along the lines
of
> Snakebite and Bad Coffee but from what I heard it was all hard techno drum
> loops. I got bored right quick and if I had gone to see just him I would
> have stuck around but as it was there were three other stages of music to
> choose from.
>
> Regarding  Joe Clausal and Danny Krivit's productions - yeah, too noodly
or
> just sort of limp Latin influenced hosue music (too many whispy voices
> going "la la la - la la la"). I like Francois' stuff though - he's not
> afraid of harder sounds in his own productions (and they don't come off as
> J Vasquez or Armand Van Helden tracks either).


The thing is, with all of these guys, you really can't expect anything very
concretely. I *love* each of them on the right night, having seen each of
them only a couple of times, but on the wrong night, or when the production
gets 'too musical' (noodly) for its own good, I'd rather write it off. But
when each of them has so much experience, and so much ground they'd like to
cover on a given night, it's quite likely that their experience will diverge
from yours significantly enough to f*ck the whole thing up.

I love the Osunlade remix of Tortured Soul, for the record. I first heard it
in the OMOA betalounge archive from the first DEMF, then heard it repeatedly
in DC when I lived there. It's one of those prototypical east coast deep
house tunes at its best. In short, it hits the spot.

Re: Matt's very well articulated rant about the Spiritual Life scene, I
totally agree. The thing is, everyone needs to find their comfort zone with
it, and for most people I think that will change over time, as pointed out
in the first reacion to Kent's review. Personally, I was eating up the
Spiritual Life (and especially the Natural Resource stuff) like it was going
out of style in late '02 and early '03 (after shunning it like the plague
for about 5/6 years), but I think their high point of usability has sunk
since then. I don't think I've bought one of their records in the last year.
Similarly, Ibidan's 10" series hasn't hit me like it has some others. I
think it's a great direction, I just think they need to iron out some kinks.
Meanwhile, their Hiroshi Watanabi '32 project' 12" was the bomb like no
other. I love that these labels are 'tweaking' things, I just want the
results right away. there's too much other good music in competition right
now.

BTW - I think this is totally topical for [313], since Detroit house seems
to be the lifeblood of Detroit club culture (from what I can see), and loads
of this stuff feeds it in varying degrees.

Tristan
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