BTW check out Fabrice's mix on http://www.pulsation.com/mixes/fabricelig.php 

very nice Fabrice, as always mate :)

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Tue 27/04/2004 08:27 
        To: [email protected] 
        Cc: 
        Subject: RE: (313)Kenny Larkin was: radio playlist - 25/4/04
        
        

        Yes, I understand your point of view too...Long & repetitive structures 
are
        generaly more into an atmospheric track, and fast changes structures 
into
        some tracks with hights moments...true...the best way is to find both of
        these sides in one tracks...probably the most difficult thing to do...
        I think that a guy like Kenny larkin is able to do that.
        cheers
        
        
        
        Fabrice Lig
        http://www.fabricelig.com
        
        
        
        
        
        >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        >To: "fabrice Lig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        >Subject: RE: (313)Kenny Larkin was: radio playlist - 25/4/04
        >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 22:20:53 +0100
        >
        >Hi Fabrice
        >
        >I think my subsequent emails to the list may have clarified matters, 
but
        >just in case, what I meant by pop was nothing to do with popularity 
and not
        >really much  to do with innovation. Fundamentally I used it as a word 
to
        >contrast the way in which people write songs, i.e. some songs have 
rapid
        >changes that give you a real sudden high moments, others change 
extremely
        >slowly and build an atmosphere. Obviously this isn't the only set of 
poles
        >between which music can be aligned, but I happened to be thinking this 
way
        >about it this morning in my perpetual quest to understand music.:)
        >
        >Best
        >
        >Dan.
        >
        >>Totally agree with you Arne !!!
        >>And anyway...what is Pop music, what is underground music...? No
        >>answer...I think pop means popular...so a track become popular after 
lots
        >>of people appreciate or buy it...
        >>After that, if each track which is melodic and no repetitive is a pop
        >>track...ok we are all doing pop tracks...
        >>I completely understand these words about Kenny's album...Its the 
same for
        >>me, on the new one there is a vocal track...like the last 12'' on
        >>Raygun...some people already called that "techno pop" ;-) ?...so Big 
fun
        >>from Innercity was one of the first techno pop song...the same for 
Strings
        >>of life...Black Water last year... and these tracks are amazing !
        >>I think Kenny (or I, and I suppose I'm right if I say its the same 
for you
        >>too Arne) are not thinking about anything regarding pop song or 
not...we
        >>are just doing what we want/we like...and of course if one of our 
track
        >>becomes popular, its great to share it with other people...I think 
that
        >>music is made to be shared...as a dj or a producer...There is a lot of
        >>producers who are not thinking further than finish a track and see 
what
        >>happens...
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>Fabrice Lig
        >>http://www.fabricelig.com
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Weinberg)
        >>>To: <[email protected]>
        >>>Subject: RE: (313)Kenny Larkin was: radio playlist - 25/4/04
        >>>Date: 26 Apr 2004 11:32 GMT
        >>>
        >>>I can't understand why you are talking about pop songs? I don't know 
if
        >>>you heard this new track by Kenny but I only can say that I don't 
see the
        >>>pop appeal in this tune.....
        >>>Like you said, it's not the next new style he is inventing here but I
        >>>also don't think that this was his goal. If you mean pop song as a 
track
        >>>with a message and a certain feel than this new track from Kenny is 
pop,
        >>>okay! If you mean an airplay compatible tune then you're wrong, 
sorry!
        >>>it's a "retro" (I hate that word!) housey piano track with a smooth 
feel
        >>>and nice melodies. Not more but also not less! I still think the most
        >>>important thing in music is if you get an impression, a feel, an
        >>>athmosphere when you listen to tracks. Having a mesage is much more
        >>>important that having invented a new style without what we call soul.
        >>>I don't need the newest super-duper mega software generated 
synthesizer
        >>>sound if it doesn't catch my ear and most important my mind and 
soul....
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>Greetz, Arne
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>"Dan Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
        >>>>  I don't know how old it is, but in terms of style it easily could 
be.
        >>>>
        >>>>  Haven't heard the album yet, so I can't comment on the rest of 
the new
        >>>>material, but this track certainly couldn't be described as a 
massive
        >>>>leap forward or new direction for him.
        >>>>
        >>>>  I personally don't have a problem with this since the 'old 
fashioned'
        >>>>skill of making a well constructed and composed tune (in other words
        >>>>writing a pop song) gives me as much listening pleasure as wondrous 
and
        >>>>startling developments in the process of song making (see K-Led for 
a
        >>>>prime example of the former).
        >>>>
        >>>>  As Fabrizio was saying the other day, there seems to be an 
interest in
        >>>>past forms from many 313 producers at the moment, maybe this is 
because
        >>>>they are into writing pop songs at the moment - something that seems
        >>>>much more prevalent in the older soul and funk 313 styles.
        >>>>
        >>>>  Any avowed futurists out there who are dismayed by this 
'retrograde'
        >>>>activity?
        >>>>
        >>>>  You wrote:
        >>>>  > >Kenny Larkin private press - tasty! anyone else had a listen 
yet?
        >>>  > >
        >>>>  > i've been meaning to ask...is this track actually like 12 years 
old
        >>>>or
        >>>>  > something? just out of curiosity. it's called "let me think" 
and on
        >>>>that
        >>>>  > P.O.D. ep there is an excerpt off the radio at one point 
announcing
        >>>>a track
        >>>>  > of same name..
        >>>>  >
        >>>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
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