one thin that is starting to bother me is the use of words like regime
when dicussing the Israeli government. It is a democratically elected
government dealin with an extremely difficult situation.

Yes- in an ideal world, we should be able to just hand the Palestinians
over their own homeland. But do a people who sanctify homicide bombers
really deserving of their own land? At what point do you stand up and say
that they are unacceptable. And given the long history of hostility
towards Israel, don't they have a right to maintain their security
(something that would be made much harder by simply giving in to all of
the Palestinian demands. Israel is making some mistakes, but to simply
portray Palestine and the Arab world as victims to this injustice is
bulls**t.

Lets get over this automatic instinct to back the underdog and really look
at what's happening.



On Fri, 28 May 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:

> IMO, if you are playing in a regime just to a certain section of the 
> population becuase of segregation that results from internationally 
> acknowledged abuses of human rights, you ARE tacitly accepting that state's 
> legitamacy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 10:15 AM
> To: Brendan Nelson
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: (313) danny wang
>
>
> I agree with you, except that I'm not sure that performing for individuals in 
> a country means that you implicitly acknowledge/approve of the regime they 
> live under. Performing as part of a government organised festival for example 
> might be a different matter.
>
> Essentially I don't think unelected individuals should be judged on the 
> actions of their government.
>
> > > Not having the knowledge myself, does anyone on the list know=20
> > > if the cultural boycott of South Africa had an effect on the=20
> > > fall of apartheid?
> >
> > It probably didn't, but any artist or business who dealt with the=20
> > apartheid regime as though it were a normal government was giving=20
> > it their tacit approval. The cultural boycott was one way among=20
> > many that members of the international community used to send a=20
> > signal to the apartheid regime that their form of government was=20
> > not seen as acceptable by the wider world.
> >
> > It's certainly true that no-one's ever going to change the world by=20
> > convincing artists (whether musicians or people in other creative=20
> > fields) not to go to countries that are ruled by inhuman or murderous=20
> > governments. It comes down to the individual artist's conscience, and=20
> > whether they're happy to implicitly acknowledge the legitimacy=20
> > of these sorts of regimes. I guess that Daniel Wang is, or at least=20
> > (as Rob suggested) he hasn't thought much about the world beyond=20
> > talced NY dancefloors.
> >
> > Brendan
> >
>
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