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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:45 pm Subject: Re: (313) Nitzer Ebb....eh? > I don't see Front 242 as being all that more obscure than Nitzer> Ebb. John
> Acquaviva used to loop the bass line from Headhunter and play it
> for 20
> minutes underneath his unfortunately more progressive fare.
>
> Adn yeah- making fun of Join in the Chant is easy. Its a silly
> song. It
> was silly when I first head it in highschool (and i was NOt an
> industrialfan in highschool), but Control I'm Here is the jam, as
> is pretty much
> everything on Belief. Much more subtle and growling (as opposed to
> shouting)
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Dj Hell is playing out Front 242 tunes, would u consider that
> to be good
> > >thing then?
> >
> > Yes - very much so. It's good to hear someone is playing
> something from
> > that era besides Nitzer Ebb
> > they along with several other groups had a more consistent,
> longer, and
> > less one-dimensional career
> >
> > >Togehter with Front 242 and Frontline Assembly they were the
> 'big names'
> > >of the Electronic Body Music scene back in the 80's. U don't
> have to like
> > >thier tunes, the early ones from thier album 'That Total Age'
> sound like a
> > >pitched up version of DAF but try their album 'Belief' or
> 'Showtime' and u
> > >wil hear a different band.
> >
> > I don't like 'That Total Age' but it does seem to be the only
> one that gets
> > played in techno sets.
> > I'd love to hear tunes off of their other records within techno
> sets - but
> > it doens't happen.
> >
> > it's always either 'Join in the Chant' or 'Let Your Body Learn'
> that I hear
> >
> > and yes, I do think they are crap tunes - explain to me what
> this is about
> > beyond vague sloganeering.
> > If they were trying to mock fascists then Laibach beat them to
> it except
> > Laibach has a much better and more fleshed out idea and message.
> > If they were trying to be angry but danceable then Front 242 has
> them beat
> > there.
> > I've never been a fan of bands/artists that have really vague
> yet anthemic
> > tunes - especially those that have big chanting sing-along type
> lyrics> lots of rage (or feigned rage) but what is the target or
> cause? There's
> > just nothing there. I just want them to light a joint and calm
> the f*ck
> > down - maybe think of something interesting to say while still
> making me
> > dance. However the lyrics in these two tunes are about as
> interesting as
> > Madonna's.
> >
> > I read a Amazon customer review that pretty much sums up
> Nitzer's entire
> > first album:
> >
> > >>NE's approach to things was pretty simple: lay down a
> pummeling beat,
> > shout military vocals and lay some simple yet catchy synth hooks
> on top
> >
> > look at these lyrics:
> >
> > lies, lies, lies, lies
> > gold, gold, gold, gold
> > guns, guns, guns, guns
> > fire, fire, fire
> >
> > gold, gold, gold, gold
> > judge, judge, judge, judge
> > guns, guns, guns, guns
> > fire, fire, fire
> >
> > muscle and hate
> > muscle and hate
> > muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
> >
> > lies, lies, lies, lies
> > books, books, books, books
> > burn, burn, burn, burn
> > fire, fire, fire
> >
> > judge, judge, judge, judge
> > gold, gold, gold, gold
> > guns, guns, guns, guns
> > fire, fire, fire
> >
> > muscle and hate
> > muscle and hate
> > muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
> >
> > join in the chant
> > join in the chant
> > join in the chant
> > join in the chant
> > muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
> >
> > lies, lies, lies, lies
> > books, books, books, books
> > burn, burn, burn, burn
> > fire, fire, fire
> >
> > guns, guns, guns, guns
> > gold, gold, gold, gold
> > judge, judge, judge, judge
> > fire, fire, fire
> >
> > muscle and hate
> > muscle and hate
> > muscle, muscle
> > muscle and hate
> > muscle and hate
> >
> > force is machine
> > force is machine
> > force is machine
> > join in the chant
> > force is machine
> > join in the chant
> > muscle, muscle
> >
> > lies, lies, lies, lies
> > books, books, books, books
> > burn, burn, burn, burn
> > fire, fire, fire
> >
> > judge, judge, judge, judge
> > gold, gold, gold, gold
> > guns, guns, guns, guns
> > fire, fire, fire
> >
> > muscle and hate
> > muscle and hate
> > muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle
> >
> > force is machine
> > force is machine
> > join in the chant
> > force is machine
> > join in the chant
> > join in the chant
> > join in the chant
> > join in the chant (muscle)
> > muscle, muscle, muscle
> >
> > fire, fire, fire
> >
> > join in the chant
> > ____________
> >
> > yeah, whatever.
> >
> > MEK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Martijn de Blaauw"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > chline.biz> cc:
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> Subject: Re: (313) Nitzer Ebb....eh?
> > 06/22/04 01:48 AM
> > Please respond to
> > martijn.de.blaauw
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Crap? don't think u can call their tunes crap...they where one
> of the very
> > few electronical bands to come out of the UK and have a some
> reputation or
> > respect within in the Electronic/EBM scene from back in the days.
> >
> > Togehter with Front 242 and Frontline Assembly they were the
> 'big names'
> > of the Electronic Body Music scene back in the 80's. U don't
> have to like
> > thier tunes, the early ones from thier album 'That Total Age'
> sound like a
> > pitched up version of DAF but try their album 'Belief' or
> 'Showtime' and u
> > wil hear a different band.
> >
> > Futhermore i think that their titles and lyrics really go well with
> > techno..'let your body learn', 'join in the chant', 'murderous' and
> > 'Control i'm here' just fit well with hard looped techno:-)
> >
> > Hawtin, Surgeon and the rest just might feel that these song are
> classics> and they grew up with it as being their early contact
> with electronic
> > music and this is their way of paying respect.
> >
> > Dj Hell is playing out Front 242 tunes, would u consider that to
> be good
> > thing then? i do....great tunes were made back in those days,
> they deserve
> > to be played out again
> >
> > And yes, Douglas Mcarthy, the former shouter of Nitzer Ebb has
> made a
> > great, very great album with Terence Fixmer called 'between the
> devil..'> and this mix between oldschool EBM, his vocals and 2004
> techno really my
> > stereo at the moment...Highly Recommended!
> >
> > just my 50 cents on this sunny morning..
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What's with their sudden popularity again?
> > > Is it a result of Richie Hawtin throwing them into his "Decks,
> efx&909"> > mix?
> > >
> > > They were riding the coat-tails of D.A.F. as far as I'm concerned.
> > > They're lyrics were sh!t, their beats were rudimentary, and
> their debut
> > > album (and those that followed) regurgitates the same
> elementary themes
> > > over and over.
> > >
> > > There were at least a handful of artists that were better:
> > > Meat Beat Manifesto (used Nitzer Ebb as toilet paper)
> > > Front 242
> > > Front Line Assembly
> > > Foetus
> > > Depeche Mode
> > > SPK
> > > Test Dept.
> > > Throbbing Gristle
> > > Cabaret Voltaire
> > > 23 Skidoo
> > > A Certain Ratio
> > >
> > > and on and on.....
> > >
> > > each of these bands could do what Nitzer Ebb was trying to do
> but they
> > all
> > > did it better
> > > and any one of them make Nitzer Ebb look like a teenage boy band.
> > >
> > > If I hear that line "Lies lies etc guns guns etc fire fire
> etc." anymore
> > > I'm going to lose it.
> > > It's a crap tune - it was a crap tune in 1987 - it's a crap
> tune now.
> > >
> > >
> > > So - can anyone explain why the popularity of Nitzer Ebb and
> why do they
> > > end up in so many techno sets nowadays?
> > >
> > > MEK
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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