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"it seems to be music that you are supposed to grow out of. most of my friends used to go to clubs, but would now rather eat their own flesh than listen to techno" So True... Most of my friends are into Nu Soul, Rap and Rnb (callitwatchchoowill) and cant bear to listen anything with a 4-4 beat. They cant hear beyond the rhythm of the kick. They need to step out 'beyond the dance'. But play them Missy Eliots 'For my Peeps' and they can dig it. As you say a lot of techno is made for clubs and dancing, people of a certain age move away from clubs. Theres families to look after. Plus I don't think I could do a 4/4 workout for more than 4 mins : ). Im listening to way more techno (not necessarily the dance orientated stuff, more the armchair stuff) than I did when I was younger. I like the abstraction, making my own mind up about what the music is communicating. I mean how many times cant you hear a song containing the lines "Laaadeeyy, I love yewwwwowwww, plueeeeeese don't leeeeeve meeeee' sung in that warbling oversinging style that seems to be so popular. Don't get me wrong I'm still partial to soul and rap, but it really needs to try harder. Good Hard Tryers - Aaliyah (rip)/Anti Pop Consortium/MadVillian/Badu/Prefuse 73/Cody Chestnutt/Spacek/ I was listening to the As One and Stastis compilations and thinking jeez these still represent a modern and futuristic sound. Send me you non ageing techno suggestions please. I'd love to hear what the oldies are digging... Cheers, Rav. -----Original Message----- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2004 09:44 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) jaded there has been a lot of discussion recently about how to get the younger (american) generation to listen to techno and that the majority of this list are over 25 (myself included). ah, the irony - in my experience, techno/house/electro is music that only young people listen to, those under 25, as they are the demographic that still go out to clubs (although there are fewer clubs and nights for them to go to - not one regular techno night on a saturday in dublin, that says something). it seems to be music that you are supposed to grow out of. most of my friends used to go to clubs, but would now rather eat their own flesh than listen to techno. is it different in america and britain? (my only experiences of going out in england are lost parties). in ireland, it is music that most people grow out of, unless they are a dj/producer, as priorities change - it's looked upon with disdain, as juvenile pap. even my girlfriend, who loves this music, is starting to find it monotonous and grating. on the rare occasions when a babysitter is available and we venture out, there is a sense of unease as we usually seem to be around a decade older than the rest of club crowd in dublin. my father is still listening to the music of his youth - jerry lee lweis, ray charles - but will we still be listening techno in our 60s? does this stuff have longevity? a friend of mine, a bob dylan fanatic, believes that people will still be listening to mr zimmerman in 300 years, can the same be said for atkins, may et al? it gets harder and harder to enjoy the music when you are in a shrinking minority, although i don't have to worry about getting shot when i go out jack palancing. that puts my agonising in perspective. fooking hell, right to bear arms? no thanks! favourite track of moment: sterac 'asphyx', a rarity that i managed to pick up recently, even though it has a dodgy trance feel off it (maybe that's why i love it!). and that aii track off the narita 'terminal one' 12" comes second with connective zone's 'function' track third. not that you care, but i've had my fun and that's all that matters. right, enough of my blathering, back to the music and lurking for me. aidano thanks, aidan
