>first of all i totally disagree with the "sub-sub genre" thing.....for me >the only real discriminator for music is whether i like it or not. its >either good or bad. period.
well sure, but thats like saying nothing... >JT was talking about how a 2 hour set of non.stop minimal clicky house >(whatever, call it what you want) would be boring.....well, i agree! a 2 >hour set of non.stop whatever would be boring, be it pure 313 techno or pure >Chi.house!! that to me is called a crap dj, whether i like the music he >"represents" or not. well sure...but minimal clicky house is a much more compartmentalized genre than detroit techno or chi house...within detroit techno, there is minimal clicky detroit techno, bangin techno...etc etc...if every song is going to have clicks and static farts...it's going to be real boring if you dont particularly like clicks and static farts...this was my point about the specificity of sub-sub-genres >Genres and pidgeholing are created by the press and spin doctors, as we have >often stated on this list. not entirely. labels and artists pidgeon-hole themselves sometimes, for better or for worse. it's just the way of things...everything is a derivative of something else that was a derivative of something else, ad infinitum...but some things even more than others... >i also find it quite amusing (i often find hypocrisy amusing) that Daniel >Bell gets the thumbs up while Richie Hawtin or "trendy minimalists" get >totally shatted on. Where is the line folks? Why isn't Daniel Bell called a >(gasp!) "trendy minimalist"? Have you heard his sets? there more german >stuff on there than there is on the Kompakt distribution list! uuhhh. i'll just use your reasoning here. i like what i hear from dan bell more than what i hear from richie hawtin, and his sets are more eclectic..at least the one recent set i have. maybe he does make trendy minimal music too, i dunno. i might like it anyways. i like some ark stuff that i've heard. i just don't like the disproportionate balance of the festival on this kind of stuff, which is a very specific sound. its just not very eclectic so far... >Have most of you even heard a set by Villalobos or Zip? There's more detroit >stuff in there than i have heard at a derrick may gig and i'm talking out of >personal experience. yes, i agree. but villalobos isnt booked is he? that would be cool...i'm surprised he's not. >And last thing, where the hell do you think most of these "trendy >minimalists" got their insipiration from? Yes that's right, Detroit and >Chicago!! who cares, if it doesnt sound good it doesnt sound good :P the pvssycat dolls probably cite prince as an inspiration, dont mean much >Ok, sorry for the rant, but the elitist attitude really gets under my skin >and im tired of reading total BS. And please, do not consider me a champion >of the "trendy minimalist" sound. I would find that somewhat limiting and >insulting. i think you may have missed my point...i dont mind "trendy minimalist" stuff at all (just because it's trendy, that is), i probably like some of it, disco and italo stuff is awfully trendy right now too and i like much of that as well. but when popularity/trendiness makes eclecticism suffer, it's troubling to me.
