I think my point was a bit overlooked. I think the problem everyone has is
that in Europe people have a genre they call "Black" music. Try replacing
"Black" music with "Polka" and see if what you think Robotnick was trying
to say seems as offensive.

I'm not a particularly big fan of R&B, so if I said "R&B has not
influenced my music in anyway" it would not be offensive, it would be a
matter of personal taste. But what if the name for R&B where I was from is
"Black" instead of "R&B"?

Now, I think refering to all music made by African-Americans as "Black"
music is insensitive, but you would need to change the racial outlook of
millions of Middle-aged Europeans, first. I also was snot privy to the
original conversation that started this thread, so maybe I'm
over-simplifying it. It's just my 2ยข.

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>
> Probably not to be honest.  But if you play and create music that is
> heavily rooted in one culture and then you say you don't like the music
> from that culture - it's weird.
>
> MEK
>
> Todd Sines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/28/2006 11:35:14 AM:
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>> I wonder if I'd be equally criticized if I said I didn't like "white
>> music" [which, when it comes to dance music, I usually don't...]
>>
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>> +odd
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> >> He also doesn't speak very good English.
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>> > I imagined that this was a contributing factor.  Still, the thing
>> about
> not
>> > liking blue notes in music begs a futher explanation.
>> >
>> > Black music in Italy maybe be thought of differently than black music
> in
>> > the US or UK but musicians are musicians and blue notes are blue notes
>> > regardless of where they are from. Saying you hate blue notes in music
> just
>> > seems poorly thought our OR expressed when the music you play contains
> it.
>> > I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but it leaves me with "???"
>> over
> my
>> > head.
>> >
>> > MEK
>> >
>> >
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>> > Everybody,
>> >
>> > Try not to get too mixed up about a statement like that. It's not
> uncommon
>> > for people in some European countries, like Italy and Germany, to
>> refer
> to
>> > a particular style of music as "Black" music. Whatever kind of music
> that
>> > is is a very loose genre, but it usually refers to Hip-Hop, Soul,
>> Funk,
>> > etc. If Robotnick says he doesn't like playing "Black" music, it
> probably
>> > means he doesn't like Sister Sledge and "We Are Family" or 50 Cent.
> He's
>> > not a racist, or proably saying anything racist. He's just a 55 year
> old
>> > man from the kind of not racially sensitive country that would define
>> a
>> > musical genre as "Black".
>> >
>> > I've spent a reasonable amount of tiume with the guy and I can tell
>> you
>> > with some certainty that he is not some kind of kooky White
> Supramatist.
>> > He's a very sweet, nice guy who is very opinionated about Espresso. He
>> > also doesn't speak very good English.
>> >
>> > As for his live set: it does both of what you would want. He plays new
>> > electro/techno stuff as well as performs a few of hits live. Usually,
> he
>> > plays "Dance Boy Dance", "Problems...", and one or two others. His
>> show
> is
>> > very fun and high energy and I'm certain most people on lthis list
>> will
>> > enjoy it.
>> >
>> > e
>> >
>> > Scatalogics
>> > 205 15th Streeet #A7
>> > Brooklyn, NY 11215
>> >
>> > www.scatalogics.com
>> > "Talent Copes but Genius Steals"
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Todd Sines
>> director
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