Yep, what you write ostensibly to a small audience, has legs nowadays - so be 
nice (and/or right! :)

Ken Odeluga
Copy Editor, Markets - Market Talk

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 December 2007 15:38
To: Three-One-Three
Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro


LOL!  I think someone mentioned that a few years back iirc.  Dear god, why 
would anyone quote me about Final Scratch? I've never even used it before.  I 
must have been the argument "against". :-S Why would anyone quote the 313 list 
for an academic paper?

funny because I had someone in my industry "google" me (not as pleasant as that 
sounds) and they pulled up some 313 thread how embarrassing...

I think this is about the only place I appear online

MEK

Luis-Manuel Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/03/2007 11:01:56 PM:

> Speaking of definitional debates, MEK, did you know that you appear in 
> an academic journal article on Final Scratch?  Tosh appears there too, 
> believe it or not...
>
> lemme know if you want a .pdf of it.
>
> LMGM
>
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2007, at 4:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Shxt - Snoop is so much closer to what electro is and was than Daft 
> > Punk are or ever have been
> > like I said,  electro is hip-hop - electronic hip-hop & electronic
> > funk
> > it's the meeting place between funk, as in R&B rooted funk, and hip-
> > hop
> > just because Daft Punk uses vocoders and have disco/robot imagery
> > doesn't
> > mean they are electro
> > notice the beat in Snoops track - well electro - smack dab on the one
> >
> > yes, Kraftwerk had 4/4 beats - but anyone claiming that Kraftwerk 
> > were 100% Electro are mistaken
> > they *inspired* Electro a great deal - possibly without them it
> > would have
> > never happened the way it did
> >
> > as for pop - well not all rectangles are squares now are they?  
> > While electro can be pop music not all pop music can be Electro.
> >
> > Dre is well rooted in Electro - World Class Wrecking Crew?  Total 
> > West Coast Electro vibes there.  The home of the Popping & Locking - 
> > funk dancing!
> >
> > the only people you're going to confuse are those who don't know 
> > anyway
> >
> > so is Daft Punk an Electro group - only in France apparently
> >
> > MEK
> >
> > Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/03/2007 03:43:52 PM:
> >
> >>
> >> I think the best response to a typical discussion such as this is 
> >> to try to confuse the arguments as much as possible.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. Kraftwerk claimed to be pop and cited how much they were Motown
> > influenced.
> >>
> >> 2. Kraftwerk had 4-4 beats.
> >>
> >> 3. Is Prince pop or electro?  Roger & Zapp?  Dr. Dre sampling Roger 
> >> & Zapp? ... what about Snoop here?
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSS_DY_z-Dc
> >>
> >> is that electro? Pop? R&B? Rap?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >>
> >> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >> To: KiDD*e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >> Cc: Three-One-Three <313@hyperreal.org>
> >>
> >> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2007 9:25:58 AM
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: (313) Electro vs Electro
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  LOL!  Maybe I need to start carrying around a vocoder.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> MEK
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "KiDD*e" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/03/2007 11:14:23 AM:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I've given up to get all worked up everytime i hear this term
> > wrongfully
> >>
> >>> used.
> >>
> >>> If someone says to me that its gonna be an "electro" party, i 
> >>> always
> > ask
> >>
> >>> whether it's "ÉlectrO" (with a flat french teen rocker accent), or
> >>
> >>> "EE-LeK-TrOw" (with a robot distorted voice). If he doesn't get 
> >>> it, i
> > say
> >>
> >>> goodbye.
> >>
> >>> - K*
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>> To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>> Cc: "313 Mailing List" <313@hyperreal.org>; "Benoît Pueyo"
> >>
> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 5:57 PM
> >>
> >>> Subject: RE: (313) Electro vs Electro
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>>> Nail meet Hammer - bang!  Exactly Ken.  Imo the word and meaning 
> >>>> of
> >>
> >>> Electro
> >>
> >>>> has been hijacked and the plane is in danger of being blown up.
> >>
> >>>> "Electro" has been slapped on as a prefix because it became the 
> >>>> hot
> >>
> >> word -
> >>
> >>>> it sold magazines like Mixmag and URB, it sold fashion 
> >>>> accessories
> > at
> >>
> >> Hot
> >>
> >>>> Topic, and it sold records at HMV/Best Buy.  Why?  Because few
> > people
> >>
> >>>> buying it were old enough to know it the first time.  They'd 
> >>>> heard
> > the
> >>
> >>> word
> >>
> >>>> but didn't hear the sound.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>>> MEK
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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