Speaking of definitional debates, MEK, did you know that you appear in an academic journal article on Final Scratch? Tosh appears there too, believe it or not...

lemme know if you want a .pdf of it.

LMGM



On Dec 3, 2007, at 4:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Shxt - Snoop is so much closer to what electro is and was than Daft Punk
are or ever have been
like I said, electro is hip-hop - electronic hip-hop & electronic funk it's the meeting place between funk, as in R&B rooted funk, and hip- hop just because Daft Punk uses vocoders and have disco/robot imagery doesn't
mean they are electro
notice the beat in Snoops track - well electro - smack dab on the one

yes, Kraftwerk had 4/4 beats - but anyone claiming that Kraftwerk were 100%
Electro are mistaken
they *inspired* Electro a great deal - possibly without them it would have
never happened the way it did

as for pop - well not all rectangles are squares now are they?  While
electro can be pop music not all pop music can be Electro.

Dre is well rooted in Electro - World Class Wrecking Crew?  Total West
Coast Electro vibes there.  The home of the Popping & Locking - funk
dancing!

the only people you're going to confuse are those who don't know anyway

so is Daft Punk an Electro group - only in France apparently

MEK

Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/03/2007 03:43:52 PM:


I think the best response to a typical discussion such as this is to
try to confuse the arguments as much as possible.



1. Kraftwerk claimed to be pop and cited how much they were Motown
influenced.

2. Kraftwerk had 4-4 beats.

3. Is Prince pop or electro?  Roger & Zapp?  Dr. Dre sampling Roger
& Zapp? ... what about Snoop here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSS_DY_z-Dc

is that electro? Pop? R&B? Rap?




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 LOL!  Maybe I need to start carrying around a vocoder.



MEK



"KiDD*e" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 12/03/2007 11:14:23 AM:



I've given up to get all worked up everytime i hear this term
wrongfully

used.

If someone says to me that its gonna be an "electro" party, i always
ask

whether it's "ÉlectrO" (with a flat french teen rocker accent), or

"EE-LeK-TrOw" (with a robot distorted voice). If he doesn't get it, i
say

goodbye.

- K*





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Nail meet Hammer - bang!  Exactly Ken.  Imo the word and meaning of

Electro

has been hijacked and the plane is in danger of being blown up.

"Electro" has been slapped on as a prefix because it became the hot

word -

it sold magazines like Mixmag and URB, it sold fashion accessories
at

Hot

Topic, and it sold records at HMV/Best Buy.  Why?  Because few
people

buying it were old enough to know it the first time.  They'd heard
the

word

but didn't hear the sound.



MEK



















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