It's an act of balancing, really. --
within this context, I don't think that things benefit from micro-loop sampling, or production decisions made with DJing in mind. DJ sets just don't seem to be the series of little trips that they used to be. maybe I'm just used to it all. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup Certainly, there's a way out of this so called BS. Wich compulsive knob twister is doing something creative these days, in this list opinion? On Sep 7, 2008, at 10:28 PM, /0 wrote: > its just that they've defeated the song structure through all of this > micro-DJing BS. > > 30 seconds into the set, your journey is over. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup > > > Saw him playing in my city last wednesday. His set was pretty > tasteless, flavourless. My impression was just like that: a bunch of > loops scrambled over and over, with a crescendo to make the crowd > scream from time to time. > It seems that a lot of djs, or producers, are showing up in the stage > the capabilities of digital blending, the knob thrill just for the > sake of it. Well, techno always had a thing about the process, not > focusing on a begining or an end, but this tasteless knob thrill > usually turns into a kid play, something like "i'm having fun playing > with my lego blocks, aren't you?". Well, it's not really that fun just > watch someone else playing lego, cause there's no space for you to get > in – the expression of the music was suposed to do that, bring the > people into the playing. > > Kw > > On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: > >> Whilst admiring how clever he is - and I genuinely think Hawtin shows a >> profound intelligence about how he applies the new opportunities which >> these latest technologies offer - I found myself drifting. >> >> I think I can only take so much technological advancement at a time. >> >> Then I kind of withdraw, hoping to hear some actual music. Perhaps >> something which completes rather than loops over another loop or even >> four fragments looped at the same time. >> >> The day when these genuinely impressive techniques add up to something >> equally as genuinely impressive coming out of the speakers will be the >> day when many luddites just using one laptop [ha, I'm not even going to >> mention the pre-historic relics, like me, who use that black plastic >> stuff!) won't be allowed to DJ anymore due to being seen as a comedy >> act. >> >> Till then - and it could happen soon: perhaps 3 years? - I think there >> are few more gigs to come. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:39 PM >> To: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: RE: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup >> >> >> Although i have different midi controllers it's the way i'm playing as >> well and exactly due to the same reasons. >> >> --- >> >> Interesting little video: >> >> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n4cy_richie-hawtin-traktor-setup_musi >> c >> >> m > >
