why step back. step forward and put your money where your mouth is.

On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 2:42 PM <vester.thac...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
> Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I want to clarify that my intention is 
> not to exert control or disrupt, but to foster better collaboration between 
> communities.  I understand that there may be concerns about redundancy and 
> approaches, which is why I believe a dialogue about our common goals and how 
> best to achieve them is crucial.  I do not see much collaboration between 
> 9legacy and 9front.  From what I gather from this thread, it seems that one 
> community wants to lord over another and not be helpful.  At least this is 
> how it appears to a hobbyist like me.  It would be nice if things were more 
> cordial and helpful.
>
> I am assuming everyone here is a hobbyist, so I speak as a hobbyist. It’s 
> important to recognize that our shared interest in advancing the Plan 9 
> community is at the heart of these discussions. I am here not for personal 
> gain but to contribute positively. I think we all bring valuable perspectives 
> that, when combined, can lead to innovative solutions that benefit everyone 
> involved.
>
> Let’s focus on how we can work together more effectively. I am open to 
> suggestions and willing to step back where needed to allow for a more 
> collective approach. I believe that through constructive dialogue and a 
> shared commitment to our community’s goals, we can overcome misunderstandings 
> and move forward together.
>
> I don't mind the ad hominem attacks.  I just hope things improve. I do find 
> it ironic that I'm addressing the 9front community about collaboration and 
> inclusiveness when I recall those as being two reasons for the inception of 
> 9front.
>
> Vic
>
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024, at 21:18, pl...@room3420.net wrote:
> > The collaboration is already here. You try to create tools that already
> > exist. I'd like to pinpoint why you have this unbelievable need for
> > control and wonder if you're not just working for Microsoft, Google or
> > the guy who stole Freenode and just try to disrupt the plan9 community.

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