On Jan 23, 1:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja) wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 09:35:25AM +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The Flash Player is proprietary and, as a shared > > library it is distributed for three mainstream operating systems and a > > couple industrial UNIX systems. You will never get it for Plan9 until > > it will become either standard industrial and/or mainstream. > > btw, re:flash:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash > > Not that it's viable (now), but it doesn't seem completely hopeless. > > -- > On the sixth day, God created the platypus. > And God said: let's see the evolutionists try and figure this one out.
In my very personal opinion it is close to impossible to win a race when the organizer is changing the track all the time in favor to a particular racer. And in case of Flash the organizer and the racer is the same entity. I dont want to attract the attention of the audience to the web browser issue once again in this group, but look - we have, just for example, web browser, the code of which is open, the "industry" accepted it and supplies all necessary plugins to it. You can hate it, but still you can build it and use it. The nuance with using it, if ever, on Plan 9 system is that you are unable to use Flash, which I, personally, consider as critical feature (it is 2008, for God sake, there is Flash everywhere). So, maybe, you can build mozilla without Flash, but for me it seems a bit pointless; the solution is to use linuxemu, Xvnc, I think. Returning to my main point: it is productive to let many Plan 9 appearances to be. If you insist on developing the core technologies and push forward ideas - fine. If someone wants to use KDE - that is okay too, because, in the end, everybody wins. The important thing is to provide real diversity of ways to use the system and to ensure that there is freedom to choose and there is someone to talk to get help. Just like the ports in FreeBSD: you can build the system from any components you fancy and get the unique machine, customized to your purpose. Nobody forces you to stuck to certain applications and ways to do work, why the heck somebody would? I really can understand the reason why people object porting things to Plan 9. It is like making bazaar in a cathedral, right? This, I think, means to force the operating system to stay in research form for the sake of computer scientists themselves! Lets drop web browser and KDE for a while and say this: there are cool, interactive scientific visualisation tools I would like to use along with fossil+venti infrastructure and Plan 9 tools and I would like to see them integrated with each other really well. As I said, it is absolutely impossible to reinvent everything again, so the question is how to integrate the already existing applications for UNIX and Plan 9. I vote for emulation.
