Some of us see your point. :-) On Jan 24, 2008 3:19 AM, Paulo Pocinho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Em Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:41:02 -0000, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > > > Returning to my main point: it is productive to let many Plan 9 > > appearances to be. If you insist on developing the core technologies > > and push forward ideas - fine. > (...) > > I really can understand the reason why people object porting things to > > Plan 9. It is like making bazaar in a cathedral, right? This, I think, > > means to force the operating system to stay in research form for the > > sake of computer scientists themselves! Lets drop web browser and KDE > > for a while and say this: there are cool, interactive scientific > > visualisation tools I would like to use along with fossil+venti > > infrastructure and Plan 9 tools and I would like to see them > > integrated with each other really well. As I said, it is absolutely > > impossible to reinvent everything again, so the question is how to > > integrate the already existing applications for UNIX and Plan 9. I > > vote for emulation. > > It's not a question of "reinvent". Let me explain. > > I see Plan 9 as a proof of concept that popular technology is obsolete. > Every time I talk to someone about it, there is always some orthodox > defensive. > Why? > Are people blind by the apparent smoothness of a popular system because > it has everything one could expect? > > IMO, people should have distance and figure out if there is really > something that should be "reinvented". > Read about why Ken hated tcp when he tried to implement it. > And I can't stop wondering why DMR uses w*ndo*s. > Whatever the reasons, it really doesn't matter. Does it? > > If I can imagine seeing things from a Plan 9 user perspective, and > something really bothers me because I am amused to see some youtube > flash, something ought to be wrong. > > The system works - nicely. So where's the catch? > Is it because Plan 9 users should want/need/miss pop tech in a system > where everything is state of the art technology? > No. > It is because the first time anyone uses Plan 9 there is this feeling, > a gasp in awe, everything is so simple that makes out brain ache. > We have been brought up spoiled in a pop tech world. > If we want/need/miss anything it is not from pop tech. It is from Plan 9. > > There is no need to "reinvent". It's all in there. > > (Again, I have that airy feeling that some won't see the point I made > and think I am going in a circle.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
-- Christopher Nielsen "They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin
