They have Access installed.  The number of office people is
low.  There is just a lot of turnover. I bookmarked the 
homepages.  I hadn't come across those before.

I got them up and running.  They had 30 corrupt records. I used
AccessFix, because I couldn't open it any other way.  AccessFix
removes the PK, defaults, and input masks.

At least I know now who to contact when this happens again.

Bryan

--- In [email protected], "Hoffman, Tobi K \(DYS\)" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If your people do not have Access installed on their PC's, you may 
want to look into doing a run-time install so they still can use the 
front-end on their own machines.  I've done it with the Wise 
Installer and a Sagekey script, which are somewhere around $800+ in 
themselves, but a lot cheaper if you have a good number of people who 
would otherwise need to have Access installed.
> 
> Tobi
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stomper57
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:30 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [AccessDevelopers] Re: Delete .ldb
> 
> 
> Hi Glenn,
> 
>   Several people are using the same login and I agree that
> it's a security nightmare.  I believe that this is the 
> source of all(if not most) the corruption at this site.
> For some reason Access has a problem with the same user
> in the same database at two different PC's both up and 
> running :)
> 
>   I've tried to convince management that everyone should
> have thier own login, but they don't want to.  It costs
> $78 per person and we have a lot of temp labor.  The
> database was down two days while I was trying to contact
> the administrator.  Which cost is greater?
> 
>   It is very possible the users are using the fe directly.
> I am not on site, so I can't monitor what they are actually doing.  
I have the fe zipped on the server so they don't have ready access.  
On the desktop of the main computer 
> they use is the entire fe unzipped.
> 
>   I have noticed that when a user has a form open a .ldb
> is created in both fe and be.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Jones, Glenn P MSG (Ret) 
FL- ARNG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Bryan,
> > Something that sticks out to me is that you have several people
> logging in
> > with the same user account.  This is a security nightmare.  I do
> not know
> > exactly how Access handles the login with the .ldb file.  If it
> uses user id
> > then that could cause a problem.  If it uses IP or MAC addressing
> then there
> > should be no problem.
> > You also said that there was one user that seem to lock it down.  
I 
> would be
> > very suspect of that user and the version and table linkage.  Do a
> search
> > and make sure that you only have one .ldb out there.
> > If you are using fe/be then the .ldb file should be only on the 
> user's pc
> > and not on the server.  I keep a copy of the front end on the
> server for
> > users to download to their pc if they have problems or if there is
> an
> > upgrade.  If you have an .ldb on your server then you have a
> problem there
> > and it sounds like a user is maybe using a front end on the
> server.  Is that
> > possible in your situation?
> > Maybe someone else can shed some more light on this.  Bottom line,
> you
> > should not have to worry about deleting the .ldb file, but I guess
> you
> > already figured that one out.
> > 
> > Be sure to let us know your final solution.
> > 
> > Glenn P. Jones
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stomper57
> > Sent: Monday, 08 August, 2005 8:51 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [AccessDevelopers] Re: Delete .ldb
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks.  Right now I'd try just about anything.  I'm still waiting
> on the
> > system admin to kill the lock.
> > 
> > Bryan
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "A.D.Tejpal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Bryan,
> > > 
> > >     If everything else fails and the ldb file proves too 
stubborn,
> > following course of action could be tried so as to delete the file
> > without resorting to re-booting of computer.
> > > 
> > >     Press Ctrl + Alt + Del so as to invoke the Task Manager. In
> the
> > Processes tab, select msaccess.exe and click End. It should now be
> > possible to delete the ldb file.
> > > 
> > > With best wishes,
> > > A.D.Tejpal
> > > --------------
> > > 
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: stomper57 
> > >   To: [email protected] 
> > >   Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 20:28
> > >   Subject: [AccessDevelopers] Delete .ldb
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Hi,
> > > 
> > >     I have a split fe/be database that is locked up. It can't 
open
> > >   because of an unrecognized database format error.  Everybody
> that
> > uses it is logged off.  I had each user try opening and closing
> > >   the database to release the lock with no luck.
> > > 
> > >     I've tried to delete it directly and the .ldb doesn't 
delete.
> > >   What is the best way to remove the lock?
> > > 
> > >   Bryan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Please zip all files prior to uploading to Files section.
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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