Sounds good for me. Monika
> Hello All, > Greg and everyone else is this date good for you. I will > be going on vacation starting tomorrow and I will not be > back until the end of June. Hopefully we can decide if > this date is good, if not I will send email when I get > back from vacation. Thank you, > Mike > > Mike O'Connor wrote: > > > Michael, > > > > The following week is good, Tuesday July 12 at 8AM > > USPacific. Yes I have been getting suggestions, I can > > never be sure that I've gotten all though. > > > > -moc > > > > Michael Elmore wrote: > > > >> Hello Mike O'Connor, > >> Is there another date that is good for you? We could > still have the >> meeting at 8 pacific. Is that time > good for you. If we have it then >> some of the people > in Europe could come. I think it would be a >> little > late for Asia though. >> Thanks > >> Mike > >> > >> PS. I am assuming you have been getting all of the > suggestions >> > >> > >> Mike O'Connor wrote: > >> > >>> Mike, > >>> > >>> Prior to replying to you I checked the LBL Holiday > schedule but >>> neglected to check the BNL holiday > schedule. >>> BNL is closed July 5th so I would not be > able to use the AG node >>> that day. > >>> > >>> (I'll use my initials since there are too many Mikes > on this thread) >>> -moc > >>> > >>> Michael Elmore wrote: > >>> > >>>> sorry about that. I did mean July 5. > >>>> Mike > >>>> > >>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Mike meant July 5th Townhall. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Monika > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Tom, > >>>>>> Monica Rabarison expressed an interest in having a > meeting >>>>>> to discuss mutlicast issues and > troubleshooting for the >>>>>> access grid. (see below > some of the email we have been >>>>>> sending.) I have > found two people who are willing to >>>>>> participate in > this. Mike O'Conner from ESNet and Greg Bell from >>>>>> > LBLNet. Mike is willing to give the >>>>>> presentation > and Greg is willing to help answer >>>>>> questions. The > first question is can this be done at the >>>>>> 8 am > townhall on July 7 (Mike can only do the 8 am > presentation) >>>>>> The second question is what kind of > >>>>>> discussion do you think would be good to present. > >>>>>> Thank you, > >>>>>> Mike > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Mike O'Connor wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Mike, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sure, July 5 for the 8AM pacific meeting is fine, > I'll >>>>>>> have to decline the later meeting. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We should talk about the audience and topic of > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> discussion. > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Mike > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Michael Elmore wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mike, > >>>>>>>> I just heard from Greg and he said that July 5 is > ok >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> with him. He >> also said he would be willing to > attend >>>>>> and help answer questions. >> Mike would > you be willing >>>>>> and could you have a presentation > available >> by July 5? >>>>>> Also, there are usually > two meetings for the town hall. >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> One at 8 am pacific and one at 4 pm pacific. > Could >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> you and would >> you be willing to do both > meetings. If >>>>>> you can only do the morning >> one > it would be fine. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thank you, > >>>>>>>> Mike > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Mike, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> July 5th is fine for me. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>> Monika > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Monica et al., > >>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if it would be ok to do the > meeting >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> at the >>>> July 5 townhall. I will be on > vacation for >>>>>> all of the >>>> dates you listed. Is > this ok for MIke >>>>>> and Greg? >>>> Thank you, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Mike > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Any date/time except June 10, 13, and 17 is > fine for >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> me. >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>> Monika > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Greg and MIke, > >>>>>>>>>>>> I received this from Monika about the content > of >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> the >>>>>> meeting. The date is not set. If you > can't >>>>>> meet at >>>>>> Brookhaven on the 7th, then we > could schedule this >>>>>> for >>>>>> another time. > Monika, do you >>>>>> have another date in mind? >>>>>> > Thank you, Mike >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the session is mainly intended for network > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> personel but >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> node >ops too could benefit from it. When the > idea >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> came >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> up >>, what >everyone wanted was mostly about > how to >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> know >>>> that >>there is a >multicast problem and > how to >>>>>> fix the >>>> problem, >>and also >re-explain > how the AG is >>>>>> using >>>> multicast. There >>is > already >an AGDP doc >>>>>> about these but >>>> > apparently >>everyone (mostly node >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> operators) wanted to >>>> have the >>network > people >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> attend such a >session. It looks >>>> like in > >>many cases >>>>>> , the network person is >not very >>>> > familiar with >>the >>>>>> AG and the node operator is not > >very >>>> familiar with >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> networking! How technical it should be? >>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not very sure >>about this. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Monika > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monica, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have talked to Greg and he is not sure > what he >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> can >>>>>>>> prepare for a meeting like this. How > >>>>>> technical he >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> can >>>>make it etc. He would like to know more > >>>>>>>>>> specifically >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> what >>you would like to get out of a > multicast >>>>>>>>>>>> presentation. >>Thank you and have > a good weekend. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please do so. June 7 sounds good to me. If > it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> too >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> close >for the presenter(s) any time would > do, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> guess. >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monika > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monica, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like me to ask the networking > people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>would like to give a presentation? > If so >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> then >>>> maybe >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>could do the presentation at the > next >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Town >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hall >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> on >>June >>7. One of the people might have > a >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> problem with 8 >>>>>> >>am, but >>I can find out. > Let me >>>>>> know or let >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> me >>know >>about another >>time. Thank you, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mike, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you indeed for your response. You > are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> right >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nobody >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >replied to this suggestion yet. I am > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> cc-ing >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Alex >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>they are >also interested in such a > session >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> at >>>>>> TACC. >>>>Having the talk >on a Town Hall > is a >>>>>> great >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> idea. >>I am >>>>thinking that the >summer > might not >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> be a >>>> good >>time as >>>>people go on vacation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Anyway, we >>>> could have >>it >>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> whenever >>the speakers are >available. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monika > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monika, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for not responding to this > earlier. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> haven't >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seen >>any other responses either. I am > not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> willing >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>lead >>such a meeting, but I am > willing to >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> try >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> and >>get >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>speaker >>for you. One of the Network > people >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> at >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> LBNL >>is >>quite >>versed in Multicasting > and I >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> think >>>>>> that he >>might >>be >>willing to > give a >>>>>> talk and I >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> could >>try to >>get the >>person >>at ESNet > who >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> isolates >>>> the >>multicast >>troubles on > >>ESNet. >>Let >>>>>> me know what you >>>> >>think. > Maybe >>it could be >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> done on a >>Town Hall >>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> meeting. Thank you, >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monika.k.rabarison wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everybody, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A suggestion poped up at the AG > retreat on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> organizing >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AG >session for network staff. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to have one person or more > share >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge, >>>>>how-tos, tips, etc...on AG > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> network >>>>>>>> support. How does >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>sound? Is there anyone out there > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> willing to >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> lead >>>>such >>>session? Node operators too > would >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> indeed >>benefit >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from it >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >some of us (at least myself)are not > very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> network >>>>>>>>"literate". > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monika > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >
