You need not go so far Rajesh. It's simple: anything relating to disability or affecting us as disabled persons, specially VI, can be discussed in this forum.
We are educated and well-placed and certainly are in a position to create awareness about issues that affect us a great deal, such as the insensitive airlines. Behaving as human isn't certainly used here as an excuse to discuss off-topic things. As someone pointed out, if stray dogs are not off-topic, this can't be off-topic as well. Appologies for sounding too interventionist, but I will feel happy if people get the point. Subramani -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rajesh Parakh Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 10:52 PM To: Chetan Sharma; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on We must realize that we are first human being then professionals. if my mother, sister, wife or close friend would have gone through such a kind of troma, would i object to this discussion? no, certainly not. access india has grown over these years and apart from technology discussions problems faced by VIPSrelated issues cannot be considered as off-topic. any way moderator's decision is final. let's see what kiran has to say about this. regards, rajesh parakh. regards, rajesh., ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chetan Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on > Hi list, > > I am not able to understand, why this group can not or should not discuss > the sexual harassment of Blind women. If an extended discussion on stray > dogs is relevant, if we can discuss reservations and concessions for VIs, > and if any other problem faced by Blind and Visually impaired is a part > and > parcel of this list, why can't we discuss sexual harassment of Blind > women? > If somebody has joined group to discuss issues pertaining to computers and > technology only then i think he/she misjudged the objectives of this > group. > There has been a persistent argument about the precious time. Please > understand Everybody's time is equally important and precious. Do you > think when smriti raise this issue, she was free and had no business at > all? > Is she passing her time by raising such issues? not at all. more over, > first one or two lines, even subject can also suggest, what is written in > the message. If one does not like something, he or she can easily delete > the > message. it is nowhere in the group's policy that every member has to read > entire message and can not delete the message before reading it > completely. > > With regards, > > > Chetan Sharma > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Divyanshu Ganatra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on > > >> With all due respects, I believe this group is ment for discussing >> technology and computer related issues, and not sexual harassment. Let >> us >> not forget what we have joined this group for, and respect everyone's >> time >> and space on this forum. >> Having said that I leave it to the moderators judgement. >> Regards, >> Divyanshu >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Subramani L >> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:53 AM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >> >> The subject here is how we can help VI girls to safeguard themselves, so >> the >> topic can't be irrelevant to the group. Also, we don't merely discuss >> technology, disability-related issues are therefore allowed for >> discussion. >> >> Subramani >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vetrivel >> Murugan Adhimoolam >> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:41 AM >> To: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra; accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I certainly understand the concerns of the member who finds lack of time >> in >> going through so many messages. However I would like to request the >> members >> to be careful while choosing certain expressions. For example the >> statement: >> "We should not put our nose in >> each and every discussion to which we have no idea or have little >> knowledge >> to contribute". In my view this is unwarranted since none of us are >> specialized in all the fields and at the same time it cannot and should >> not >> be a barrier in contributing to the group. Believe me or not, my work >> load >> here in the US is so much and still I find time to go through the message >> list and choose which ones to read and which one to ignore based on >> certain >> priorities and availability of my time. This is not to show to the group >> how >> much hard working I am, but to show that My inconveniences cannot and >> should >> not be used as tools to request other members to restrict their >> participation. Perhaps it would be great if we could receive comments >> from >> other members on this. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Vetri. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:15 AM >> Subject: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on >> >> >>> Dear Members, >>> I think this group is purpose specific. >>> However, WE have reduced it in to a forum for general discussion. >>> When we started the group there was a specific purpose behind it. >> There >>> are >>> so many things which could be discussed about the problems of VCs. I >> think >>> we should have group purpose specific. >>> So that we could be specialized in our approach in dealing with the >>> problems >>> related to us. Just casual remarks on issues are mere wastage of time >> for >>> so >>> many people here around. I received more than 300 messages on the >> issue of >>> definition regarding the word blind. >>> So many things which are important but do not fit in the scheme of >> this >>> group could be taken up with free mind else where. Now initiating a >> group >>> is >>> not a big thing. Any body could start a group. We should not put our >> nose >>> in >>> each and every discussion to which we have no idea or have little >>> knowledge >>> to contribute to others. >>> With regards, >>> VIP >>> >>> I hope the group would not take it otherwise. 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