The issue arising out of airport incidence is issue related to accessible 
environment  for which our list is meant.
On this issue there is no such deviation.
Such topics are rather encouraged on the list.
With regards,
Vip

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on


>I simply gave it as an example of how even those so technologically
> orientated among us can't afford to ignore personal safety issues and
> simply call danger to the personal safety of VI girls off topic.
>
> Subramani
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P.
> Subramani
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 7:44 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>
> that particular rape by a cab driver is a different issue as you and
> others
> know the reasons as to why such a thing happened, pre-requisites and the
>
> backgrounds to it.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>
>
>> For the kind information of those insisting that this group is only
> for
>> 'technology-related-discussion', BPO's in Bangalore today spend a lot
> of
>> their time overseeing protection of their women employees, because one
>> woman was brutally raped and killed last year by a cab driver and they
>> don't want that to happen again.
>>
>> Though technology is the thrust area of this group, we can't play down
>> the importance of individual safety. Another example that I learnt
> today
>> is JAN or Job Accessibility Network in the US, who facilitate
> accessible
>> work environment for persons with disability in the US, spend a great
>> deal of time instructing clients as to how they can evacuate
>> disabledemployees in times of emergency. Now, is it fair for JAN to
> say,
>> "we can discuss only work places adjustments and evacuation is out of
>> our services?"
>>
>> Subramani
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Taraprakash
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:32 PM
>> To: Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>>
>> Thanks for clarity but the motive is not yet clear.
>> I do respect your respect for the law of the list. I however, regret
>> your
>> insensitivity towards the socially relevant issues concerning blind
> men
>> and
>> women and also that of the conventions of the list. We all break laws
>> sometimes and you have yourself done it recently by raising your
>> objections
>> on the list. Just to refresh your memory, you yourself have been part
> of
>>
>> discussion threads which did not have anything to do with access
>> technology.
>> Why such a move towards 'propriety' now? Are we smelling a sabotage
>> tactics
>> there?
>>
>> Will you please give any example when someone was banned from the
> group
>> while raising issues directly concerning the blind?
>>
>> You are right that forming a group is very easy these days. It,
> however,
>>
>> always has been easier to hit a delete key if you thought the message
>> was
>> not relevant or useful to you. I beg to ask you for that sacrifice
> when
>> it
>> concerns such an important issue.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 1:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Proposal for starting a separate group on
>>
>>
>>>I am putting the things in clear words again! Emphasis added it is not
>> a
>>> question of discussing matters pertaining to sexual harassment or
> some
>>
>>> thing
>>> else and their relevance for VCs. Question is since we have disowned
>>> several
>>> members from this list already. Why to just pick and choose. It is a
>> known
>>> fact that this group is related to issues arising out of
> accessibility
>> and
>>> otherwise. its not that we are that we are not concerned about these
>>> social
>>> issues. But again the question is,  is it a proper forum to rays such
>>> issues?
>>> Though our parliament is competant to make laws for whole of the
>> territory
>>> of india. But it can not alter the basic structure of our
> consitution.
>>> Likewise, the basic structure of this group here is to discuss issues
>>> related to accessibility.
>>> Then, a bonafide plaint is: Each member shal follow these guide lines
>> if
>>> one
>>> is law abiding enough.
>>> If you want to flout with existing laws than law would take its own
>>> course!!
>>> With regards,
>>> Vip
>>>
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