Hi Moiz Your issue really interests me and kindles my curiocity. Are you running Windows XP? If not, no problem. Just try this and let us know
1. Login to the site where you want to copy the journals from and quit Jaws. 2. Open run diolog box (Windows+R) and type narrator then push enter You should hear an old man speaking. This is called "Narrator". It is a screen-reading software comes with Windows XP. 3. Using Alt+TAB, move to your internet explorer window which you already have opened Making sure that your Jaws is inactive, 4. Press ctrl +A and CTRL+C 5. Start Jaws and quit Narrator. 6. Now paste it in Microsoft Word and let us know the result. I think you can try repairing Microsoft Internet Explorer if it doesn't work Meanwhile, It would be bit easier if we were to know the website your collecting the journals from. Is it www.thehindu.com? For your success Syed Imran ----- Original Message ----- From: "moiz tundawalla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks with jaws. > Hello sir. > > Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. > Well I have been doing the same thing. It isnt wworking. I managed to > exactly copy a page from the Hindu's website to ms word. But the > journals that I am looking at...strangely enough...its not happening. > Pulling down the edit menu, typing A for the select all command...this > is what I did but the thing is not getting selected. > Now does i.e. have different standards for different pages or what. > I'm clueless. > Using another brouzer can be tried as an option. But with all that was > said about virtualization, do you still think it'll make any > difference? > Moiz. > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:34:13 +0530 > From: "Syed Imran" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [AI] page breaks and jaws. > To: < > accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello Moiz and my dear list members, > > This is a lengthy E-mail. I like to share my technique of copying any data > from web pages in its original format including tables and hyperlinks. I > assure you that if you perform these operations correctly, you can copy > the > exact data appearing on the screen. I further make myself clear to you > that > the copied data will be free from line-breaks and page-breaks. So I hope > you > don't mind spending some of your time with me to read this mail carefully. > Before telling you how to copy, I want to make you aware of a curious > technology which Freedomscientific is using in order to make web documents > accessible by using something called "Virtual PC cursor". The virtual PC > cursor performs the function of copying and differentiating headings, > links, > formfields, and other such elements on a web page. This is called > "Virtualising". Virtualising includes finding out the different elements > on > a web page, layout of tables, etc and making these elements appear in a > seperate line. The text we read using jaws in a web page is not what a > sighted person reads on the screen. Let me make it easy to understand by > an > example. > I have given a paragraph in 2 different illustrations as to show how > exactly > a paragraph with links might appear on the screen and how Jaws reads for > us. > I think it is necessary for us to know how virtual viewer works, to > understand why line breaks appear when we copy any data from Internet > explorer > > I) Illustration 1 How does a web page appear on the screen? (not > virtualised) > ------------------------------ > > The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: > > Some LINK fruits and LINK vegetables preserved by pickling. The > fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is cut into pieces and enough > salt > is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. LINK Oil and LINK spices are > added. The pickle > are stored in a LINK dry jar with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir > and take the pickle from the jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is > used. > > In this illustration, you can observe jaws saying "Link" in the middle of > the line. I think this is how a "link" element appears on the screen. > But whenever Jaws encounters any links in a web page, it breaks the line > to > present them in a separate line as to make more accessible and also to an > extent, save the time of the readers. Let me try to give an idea about the > same in the 2nd illustration: > ii) Illustration 2 How does Jaws virtualise the content? (virtualised) > > The process of pickling fruits and vegetables: > > Some > LINK fruits and > LINK vegetables > preserved by pickling. The fruit/vegetable washed and dried. Then it is > cut > into pieces and enough salt > is added. These pieces are kept in the sun. > LINK Oil > and > LINK spices are added. The pickle are stored in a > Link dry jar > with a tight lid. A dry spoon is used to stir and take the pickle from the > jar. The pickle will spoil if a wet spoon is used. > > ------------ > > So this is how Jaws arranges the data in the web page after virtualising. > However, when you copy this text to Microsoft Word, you will observe the > text broken something like this: > > Some > fruits and > vegetables > Instead of: > Some fruits and vegetables > We can surely remove the line breaks by pressing CTRL+downarrow and then > back space followed by space bar as Vetry said, but it takes lot of time. > Especially the lengthy documents. So when you want to copy anything from > internet explorer, don't use selecting keys like Shift+downarrow, or > ctrl+A > to select the text. follow these simple steps exactly to copy the exact > information without line or page breaks. > > 1. Open the web page from which you want to copy > > 2. Press Alt+E to pull down edit menu. > > 3. Choose "Select all," by pressing A. > We can't press CTRL+A directly instead of pulling down edit menu because > Jaws will select from its virtual buffer. And I think Moiz, this could be > the cause of your problem. > > 4. Again pull down the edit menu (Alt E) and choose copy by pressing C. > Now what actually happens is that when you select all and copy from the > edit > menu, the data gets directly copied from Internet explorer and not from > Jaws > virtual buffer. > > 5. Open Microsoft word with a new document. > > 6. Paste whatever is copied from internet. > This will paste the entire web page in your new documents including > pictures, tables, links etc. > > 7. Keep whatever you want and delete unnecessary stuff. > > Some tips: > > 1. If you don't want pictures, tables and links, then paste it in notepad > and then copy it to Microsoft word > > 2. However if you want tables, then paste it in wordpad and after > selecting > the pasted text, copy it to Microsoft word. > > 3. If you suspect that there are hyperlinks still in the edited document, > press CTRL+A and press CTRL+SHIFT+F9 to clear the hyperlink attribute from > the entire document. > > I am still searching for some easier way to copy from web pages and will > be > thankful if anyone could help in this regard. > > For your success > > Syed Imran > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
