E-Mail: subramani6...@gmail.com Mob: 9738150192 Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16----- Original Message ----- From: "Arjun Malhotra" <malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Blind can record answers
I fail to understand why words like grace marks and liberal checking are construed in negative light. Well if you dont know then you have the right to know that what ever the marks that one obtain in exam are not your actual marks but moderated marks. At times marks may be increased or even decreased. Its the matter of policy that how moderation is to be done. Factors like difficulty of question paper, error in question in question paper, accademic trends and other such factors are taken into consideration while moderating the exam result. Benifit or loss is extended to all regardless of one's disability, cast, gender and social background. Will someone tell me if a VI student is not getting reasonable education who is to be blaimed? By reasonable education I mean getting quality accessable study material on time, study material free from errors, quality teaching, eas in accessing books, guides, or any other such educational material. Half of the time of VI student is spent on gathering accessable study material, scanning it, get editing done. When will that student learn and crystalise the concepts. When will s/he will get time to revise? Of course conceptual clarity will not be there and which will be apparent in the answer scripts and term papers. Grace marks is their right. Right to education is our fundamental right and right to quality life is also our right. That is to say Right to accessable education is a fundamental right of a student with disability. If this right to accessable education is infringed well it requires that what ever harm have caused to student with disability has to be compensated I'm against grace marks but I'll continue to favour them unless students with disability do not get education with all the acomodation that they require. Yes all acomodation not reasonable acomodation. Reasonable acomodation has done more harm than solving the problems. Reasonable acomodation is a convenient term to expend ingenuity in fabricating loop wholes in order to escape inclusive system. On 1/13/16, Ajay Minocha <ajayminoc...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi, Very fruitful discussion indeed! In my views, typing, writers and recording should co- exist. Our so-called special schools are far from achieving some success with maths even at SSE level hence we can't just expect that every student can type equations as fluently as he/she can dictate to a writer. Similarly, In case of regional languages, Use of recording devices can make the process rather easier for visually impaired participants as compared to dictation as well as typing. Regards, Ajay On 1/13/16, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:Very constructive discussion is on. I'd agree that Blind People Organisations in Maharashtra should meet Education Minister and suggest necessary corrections in the GR in written form. The CBSE has provision for ensuring the availability of computer with enabled assistive tools to write one's exam. However I'm not sure about the efficiency of Marathi-screen reading software. The provision of scribe should not be discontinued. Moreover, if needed,the questionpapers should be provided in Braille. On 1/13/16, bala9119 <bala9...@gmail.com> wrote:First of all, I appreciate Mr. Vinod Tawde for bringing the necessity of change or evolution in conducting exams for the disabled to the limelight. recording the answers should be one of the options not the mandatory. strict no to liberal or grace marks. instead of straight up criticisms to the suggestions, it would be better if the civil society organizations of blind speak to Mr. Tawde to explain the drawbacks of the system so that a constructive change may happened. I generally oppose the system of scribes and particularly anti towards the print impaired bringing their own scribe. a person who finding difficult to frame a sentence is a probationary officer in many banks now is what the bitter truth which some of you may disagree. because of such malpractice, the eligible, legitimate print impaired people are suffering a lot. if we want to maintain the scribe system, better we have to push for the governments to provide eligible person who know to read and write without difficulties and a separate invigilator for each print impaired candidate. without strengthening the invigilation, offering the candidate to bring their own scribe is like providing the cheatcode to win the game. now its in our hands to move. we must launch necessary campaigns or measures with a focus on flexible mode of giving exams for the disabled instead of a single method. those who want braille, let them write in braille. those who want to record let them get. those who want computers let it be granted. those who want scribes, let the government provide an eligible scribe with an impartial invigilator. finally, I personally don't believe in the universal or identical mode of giving exams for the print impaired but the universal purpose that is impartial, equal treatment in the society. cheers. On 1/12/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:Times of India: Blind students can 'record' board exam answers on tape recorder Abhishek Choudhari | TNN | Jan 9, 2016, 04.24 PM IST NAGPUR: Don't be surprised if during this summer's state board exam a candidate asks the invigilator for additional 'cassette' instead of additional supplement.Students suffering from visual impairment (partial/full) can now record their answers on tape recorder rather than taking help of a writer. Thisnew ruleis part of a slew of revolutionary changes brought in for special needsstudents by state school education minister Vinod Tawde. Speaking to TOI, Tawde said, "Visually impaired students can get the questions read to them 20 minutes before the paper starts so that they can get a feel of things. Their answers will be recorded and the device will be sent for evaluation in the same way we send the traditional answer sheets." For all specialneeds students the minister has offered other exam concessions, like 20minutes extra time per exam hour, liberal evaluation, grace marks, facility of talking calculator, on-screen reading software (if available) etc. Studentssuffering from cerebral palsy, autism, impairment of speech and hearing,physicaldisability, spastics, learning disorder etc are some who have been giventhese examination concessions. 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