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On 3/17/17, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, I took notes on my laptop. > > On 3/17/17, Aruni Sharma <aruni...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi. This is very impressive deed and also your observations at the end are >> very apt. Did you take notes on your laptop? >> >> Thanks and regards >> Aruni Sharma >> >> Associate prof. JNPG College >> >> Lucknow >> Sent from my iPhone 5S >> Connect with me: >> skype: arunisha...@outlook.com >> facebook; arunisharma >> twitter: twitter.com/arunisharma >> >>> On 17-Mar-2017, at 12:36 AM, Mahendra Galani <gal...@chello.at> wrote: >>> >>> wonderful note Avinash. >>> At 11:28 PM 3/16/2017 +0530, you wrote: >>>> My notes from the seminar: “challenges in the implementation of the >>>> RPD >>>> Act†2016 organised by the office of Chief Commissioner of Persons >>>> with >>>> Disabilities Date: 16th March 2017 Venue: Bharatiya Pravasi Kendra >>>> Chanakyapuri Inaugural session Speaker: SK Prasad gave an overview of >>>> the >>>> seminar. Speaker: Joint Sec and chairperson of National Trust Mr Mukesh >>>> Jain Mr Jain: “though the audience is not very big, but the all >>>> sitting here have the capacity to change the sector manifold†. Mr >>>> Jain: >>>> disability does not reside within individuals but it exists in the >>>> society. Mr Jain: there are 3 kind of challenges to implement the RPWD >>>> Act. 1. Substantive challenges: how to make intervention at the ground >>>> level. Healthcare, education and employment fall under substantive >>>> challenges. Mr Jain: disability policy should not be the afterthought, >>>> it >>>> should be built in all the policies. Challenge II: structural challenges >>>> Mr Jain: how to make all people with disabilities aware about the >>>> provisions under the RPWD Act. If we are able to achieve this, majority >>>> of our challenges will go away. Mr Jain: 2.68 crores people with >>>> disabilities are not sitting only in Delhi and Mumbai, they are their >>>> in >>>> the villages and making them aware about their rights should be the key. >>>> Mr Jain: if we are to bring accessibility, we will have to train, >>>> municipal workers, and the other stakeholders such as SP, DSP and the >>>> Majistrates. Mr Jain: removal of prejudice against PWDS. Publick >>>> employers should be made aware of the skills of PWDS. Mr Jain: >>>> procedural >>>> challenge: all state CCPD offices should become the centre for the >>>> monitoring and coordinating of the schemes. Speaker: KK Pandey (CCPD) Mr >>>> Pandey: though the numbers comprising of state commissioners, NGO >>>> representatives government officials and the researchers are less but we >>>> should not forget you are the seed which will germinate and bring out >>>> the >>>> necessary change required in the country. Mr Pandey: In Maharashtra, >>>> Gulab Ray Maharaj was the one blind ‘divyang’ who wrote 150 books >>>> thousand years ago. Mr Pandey: ‘Divyang’s have always contributed >>>> for >>>> the nation. They are not burdens what they need an opportunity. Of late >>>> science has won over disability. Anyone can become ‘divyang’ so we >>>> all should be aware about its challenges. Mr Pandey: In the last 2 and a >>>> half years, the government of India has organized more than 4 thousand >>>> equipment distribution camps and moore than 6 lakhs ‘divyang’ have >>>> got benefited. The government had to incur around Rs 4 crore for this >>>> initiative. Mr Pandey: We are now moving from the charity approach to >>>> the >>>> rights approach. Mr Pandey: the government wants to implement the RPWD >>>> Act on the Ambedkar Jayanti on 14th April 2017. Remember the PWDA 1995 >>>> took 3 years to see its rules notified. You can thus see the commitment >>>> of the Modi Government. Mr Pandey: There is no fixed format in the >>>> disability sector. Its evolving and we have to remain vigilance. Its not >>>> a sector where trade union operates. We have to find solution with >>>> consensus in the sector. Mr Pandey: There is need to give opportunity to >>>> all ‘divyangjan’ of the country. I end here Thank you. Speaker: N S >>>> kang Secretary DEPWD Mr Kang: The government and the civil society need >>>> to work in tendom to see that the law is implemented effectively. Mr >>>> Kang: on the 10th of March we put the draft of the rules on our website, >>>> please send suggestions. Send us your objections soon so that we could >>>> publish the rules on 14th on April on the occasion of Ambedkar Jayanti. >>>> Mr Kang: the larger challenge is to how we make disabled people aware >>>> about their entitlements envisaged under the legislation. Mr Kang: in >>>> the >>>> last 2 years, we have sceen great change in the attitude of peoplw >>>> towards PWDs which is encouraging. We should carry on the momentum. We >>>> are determined to ensure equal status for the people with disabilities. >>>> Avinash: We break for tea now. We are heading towards the lift which is >>>> Braille-embedded. The people have now started networking. Some NGO >>>> representatives are looking desperate to meet government officials. They >>>> have to show their credentials. My friend Yogesh and Me both totally >>>> blind have found a table and one of the CCPD Office officials has >>>> instructed her colleagues to take care of our tea and snacks >>>> requirements. On my table, I happen to meet one woman who has a son who >>>> has multiple disabilities. She sstrikes a conversation: ‘Hi’, I >>>> responded Hellow! We discussed inclusive schooling and debated the prose >>>> and cons. Then we are meeting the State CCPD of Nagaland, who informes >>>> us >>>> that as per 2011 Census, in Nagaland there are only 29 thousand six >>>> hundred children have disabilities. He lamented that his office is >>>> clubbed with the social welfare department, and fund scarcity is the >>>> huge >>>> problem. We are done with tea. Next Session: panel Discussion >>>> “challenges in the grievance redressal under RPD Act Mr Dhariwal >>>> (former Deputy CCPD chairs the session Speaker: Mr Mukesh Jain (JS >>>> DEPWD) >>>> Mr Jain: CCPD should not only address a grievance of a particular >>>> complant, but it should also recommend that similar violation doesn’t >>>> take place in other establishments. Speaker: Uma Tuli former CCPD MRs >>>> Tuli: When I was CCPD people were fearful of my power. Mr Tuli: not only >>>> CCPD, but the civil society, media and the educational institutions need >>>> to join hands to oversee that less violation of the provisions occur. >>>> Mrs >>>> Tuli: once I organized a seminar and invited parliamentarians to >>>> participate. We invited people with disabilities to show their skills. >>>> There was a visually challenged typist and he took dictation and wrote a >>>> flowless letter. Then one of the MPS instantly stood up and said: >>>> “I’ll fire my current secretary and hire him†the house resonates >>>> with huge applause! Mrs Tuli: the stage and the dius where we are >>>> sitting >>>> is inaccessible. No wheelchair could come on the stage. Then one >>>> officials rebuffs Mrs Tuli: “madam, the door on your back is rolling >>>> one which enables wheelchair come aboard on the dius…†Next Speaker: >>>> PK >>>> Pinchaw (former CCPD) Mr Pinncchaw: This Act seeks to amplify the civil >>>> and political rights of PWDS. Mr Pinchaw: If I am Divyang, then trust me >>>> you all are divyang. Including the minister and the other government >>>> officials. Mr Pinchaw: The powers of CCPD and the State CCPDS have been >>>> widened under the Act. But the quality enhancement of the powers of the >>>> CCPD and the State CCPDS have not been enhanced. Mr Pinchaw: >>>> section75(B) >>>> CCPD instead of consulting advisory body should have discretionary >>>> powers >>>> to take suuomotive decisions. Next speaker: Mr SK Rungta Mr Rungta: >>>> Before I talk about the challenges, I want to talk about some facts from >>>> the history. We need to think about how the challenges before CCPD >>>> different in the RPD Bill than they had in the PWDA 1995 act. The >>>> difference is that in the RPD Act we have 3 commissioners and one >>>> advisory committee. Mr Rungta: The word Recommendation in the Act is >>>> problematic. And You have gone ahead and said that the government >>>> department may inform whether it wants to accept the recommendation or >>>> not within stipulated time. That’s over. Mr Rungta: there is another >>>> problem, if any publick servant commits an offence then one needs to >>>> take >>>> sanction. What is this if not cercomvention. Mr Rungta: There is no >>>> clarity about what role an advisory committee will play. Mr Rungta: >>>> There >>>> is a need to mainstreaming of grievance redressal cell with other laws >>>> such as labour laws. Why it was not done in the Act if could be done >>>> under the rules. Next Speaker: AK Awasthi (JT Sec CCPD) Mr Awasthi: >>>> rules >>>> will continue to be amended. Beyond 14th April th day when we are likely >>>> to publish. Mr Awassthi: One information: today Election Commission has >>>> launched the website where there is a separate column for the >>>> registration of different types of disabilities. Mr Awasthi: The Centre >>>> is formulating the rules but the key is when different states create >>>> rules and notify. We may also prepare model draft once we are done with >>>> publishing of rules for the Central Government Department. Next Speaker: >>>> Sara Varghese (CBM) Mrs Varghese: I’ve been asked to speak here cause >>>> we work at the grassroot through our partners. Mrs Varghese: we need to >>>> create awareness at all levels. Mrs Varghese: we will have to think that >>>> how we can coordinate discussion amongst different types of >>>> disabilities. >>>> Mrs Varghese: people with disabilities should be included in the >>>> disaster >>>> management preparedness programmes. Mrs Varghese: the basic principle of >>>> the disability movement ‘Nothing about us without us’ is there in >>>> this room. But how many committees at the village and the district >>>> levels >>>> have PWDs on the committees roles. Next Speaker: Mr Dhariwal Former >>>> Deputy CCPD Mr Dhariwal: creating of funds in the states is a challenge. >>>> The Central government provides funding to the DEPWD but what about >>>> states where separate disability department is non-existent in the >>>> majority of states. We need to organize one conference with the Chief >>>> Ministers of all the states where Prime Minister appeals them to take up >>>> the fund creation challenge seriously. We break for lunch now. >>>> networking >>>> beguns. I’m hearing numbers being exchanged. Now I happen to meet one >>>> of the employee with disability in the CCPD Office. She is a woman who >>>> has locomotor disability. She shares her agony of inaccessible bus-stops >>>> in Delhi. My friend Yogesh soon heard Prof Dayal sir voice and alerts me >>>> “dayal sir is also here†we exchanged pleasantries. The food is >>>> very tasty indeed. The pure Punjabi-Delhi cuisine. We were served food >>>> on >>>> the table by the caterers. The CCPD Office seemed to be mindful of the >>>> fact that blind guys need attendant and they took care of it. We are >>>> done >>>> with lunch and tummy is full. Lets go back to the seminar hall where >>>> next >>>> session is about to take off. Next session: on the same issue continues >>>> Speaker: Dr Anil Aneja EOC head DU Mr Aneja: the first challenge which I >>>> see as a hurdle is section 3(3) which deals with discrimination. Mr >>>> Aneja: there are certain clauses in the act which offer escape route to >>>> the government from not abiding by the law in true spirit. Mr Aneja: >>>> Unfortunately, in the section32 under the act, There has no clear >>>> guidelines available to implement 5 per cent reservation in the higher >>>> educational institutions. The provision for providing assistive tools to >>>> pWDs in higher education is not envisaged under the act. Mr Rungta >>>> who’s chairing the session responds to Dr Aneja. Mr Rungta: We are >>>> fighting for the section 3(3) to be more stronger as far as protection >>>> of >>>> PWDS from discrimination. Next Speaker: Mr Subhash Vashishth Mr >>>> Vashishth: Unless you invoke the law it doesn’t work. Mr Vashishth: >>>> Section4 The positive interpretations and provisions of older laws and >>>> judgment should be retained. Mr Vashishth: Section 3(5)Reasonable >>>> accommodation is not properly defined for the each type of disabled >>>> category. Mr Vashishth: perhaps the government alone can’t bring >>>> transformation in the lives of pWDs. Mr Vashishth: the Office of CCPD >>>> has >>>> undue responsibility in the Act but it lacks shortage of staf and >>>> resources. The situation at the state level is more pathetic. Mr >>>> Vashishth: The promotion aspect should be taken care of. The career >>>> growth of employees with disabilities should not be obstructed due to >>>> unavailability of assistive tools. Mr Vashisht: the insurance should not >>>> be only for employees with disabilities. Mr Vashisht: the law doesn’t >>>> incorporate the responsibility of private schools which is disturbing. >>>> Mr >>>> Vashisht: section 34 is only restricted to identified disabled >>>> categories. What about those disabled categories who are related to >>>> blood-related disorders. They have nothing in the law. Let me give some >>>> of my observations Avinash: I’m skipping some of the speakers cause >>>> they are just celling their NGOs through PPTs and their points are of no >>>> relevance to the seminar theme. Sorry, My discretion, since its my >>>> nnotes; no? Few important details to note: No deaf representatives no >>>> sighn language interpretation. And the seminar is of national character, >>>> they say. No woman with disability among the speakers in the entire >>>> seminar. No SC/ST/religious minorities speakers on the dius. Sorry, the >>>> sociological analyses is needed cause it’s a national seminar! Next >>>> Speaker: Prof Gaba from IGNOU Mr Gaba: I don’t think we will be able >>>> to >>>> provide justice to all 21 categories of disabled people in the coming >>>> 100 >>>> years. Next speaker SK Mishra IGNOU Mr Mishra: I searched the whole act >>>> and found the mentioning of the word ‘university’ only at two >>>> places. >>>> Sohigher education has been neglected and it should find special >>>> mentioning in the rules. Mr Mishra: we have two model universities in >>>> the >>>> disability sector. RambhatraCharya University in Chitrikut in 2001 and >>>> Shakuntala Mishra Rehabilitation University in Lucknow 2008. Mr Mishra: >>>> the 11 five year plan made provision for setting up of disability >>>> studies >>>> in the universities and twelve plan proposed to provide incentives to >>>> disabled pupil and faculty. And it also proposed to provide funding to >>>> universities to be disabled-friendly. Mr Mishra: The IGNOU has the >>>> enrolment of around 10 thousand students with disabilities. Avinash: >>>> Very >>>> interesting figure indeed. Mr Mishra: our reading materials are >>>> accessible to all distant students. Mr Mishra: the biggest challenge for >>>> imparting the distance education is the lack of regional study centres >>>> equipped with disability-sensitive model. Next Speaker: Satender Singh >>>> GTB Hospital Dr Singh: Neither I’m divyang nor mr Awasthi, but we have >>>> different outlook to view our problems. The ramp leading to the stage is >>>> too uneven that one employee of the CCPD Office wanted to give >>>> flower-pot >>>> to one of the speakers but couldn’t climb. The ‘accessible toilet’ >>>> on the second floor has no light inside. Mr Singh: In the Budget 2017-18 >>>> nowhere the Finance Minister talked about the RPD Bill. From where the >>>> money will flow to implement the Act? Mr Sinngh: as per ‘sugamya >>>> Bharat >>>> Abhiyan’ We should have achieved A1/A2 stations around 1081 stations >>>> should have been accessible by now. But where are we, go to New Delhi >>>> Railway Station you would not find a lift. Mr Singh: The allocation for >>>> the promotion of sports among disabled has been slashed to 0.4 crores >>>> from last year’s Rs 4 crore. It all happened when disabled players won >>>> medals in the Paralympics and the Twenty WC cricket cup for the blind. >>>> Mr >>>> Singh: the clubbing of different types of disabilities in the >>>> reservation >>>> bracket will lead to infighting among the different groupings. AAH! The >>>> speakers have eaten time for the next session which was open session and >>>> we didn’t get the opportunity to listen the state commissioners who >>>> have travelled from different parts of the country to share their >>>> challenges which they encounter on the ground. And We also can’t ask >>>> questions. Perhaps this has become the norm in government-sponsored >>>> seminars where speakers tactically eat out time and leave no scope for >>>> the audience and the observers. Anyway, Mr Gehlot the Minister will >>>> grace >>>> the occasion in the final session. The final session Valedictory Mr >>>> Gehlot MSJE is gonna address the audience. Mr Gehlot: A human being’s >>>> life is always better if we are in student mode. Learning is a continuum >>>> craving. Mr Gehlot: we are not keeping with the pace in the disability >>>> empowerment and need to step our efforts to catch up with the develop >>>> world. Mr Gehlot: our culture our tradition have been of vasudhev >>>> kutumbhakun; but are we really inclusive for the ‘divyang’? lets >>>> introspect. Lets shun the attitude of contempt towards the >>>> ‘divyang’. >>>> Mr Gehlot: we are planning to provide universal identity card to the >>>> ‘divyang’. The card will be valid throughout the country. Mr Gehlot: >>>> New announcement: from 1st April 2017, we will start coaching classes >>>> for >>>> children with disabilities in the country. Mr Gehlot: general people >>>> keep >>>> complaining, why are you giving this reservation to the disabled. Where >>>> will we go? opportunities are limited in the publick sector. Mr Gehlot: >>>> I >>>> was in Scotland recently where representatives of 65 countries came to >>>> the conference, and I am elated to inform you they have acknowledged in >>>> their speeches the efforts being taken by the Modi Government for the >>>> empowerment of the PWDs. Mr Gehlot: in the last two and a half years we >>>> have organized more than 4 thousand 7 hundred publick camps and >>>> distributed equipments. Mr Gehlot: I’m happy to see those disabled who >>>> were dependent upon their parants now take care of their families. This >>>> is the spirit which encourage us. Friends, that’s the end of the >>>> seminar. I however would like to mention that They don’t realize the >>>> fact that democracy is a system where regimes get changes. that there >>>> were many speakers from our community who were very opportunistic. What >>>> they say in rallies or on Access India they actually sound opposite in >>>> front of the minister. I need not to name, I know they will mind their >>>> behavior. I can also sing song of the government but sorry this >>>> doesn’t >>>> suit my vocation and profession. I am not into NGO business, I’m a >>>> pure >>>> academician and works for the entire nation. I know the power of >>>> democracy and can’t give in before the wave which is too temporary. -- >>>> Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>> of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To >>>> unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with >>>> the subject unsubscribe. 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