Bharat and rajesh,
I have forwarded Bharat's problem to the RBI. They are going to deal with 
it.
Bharat you will have to contact the Delhi Ombudsman at the RBI.

The IBA guidelines cover your problem. ICICI has no business refusing your 
account.

I can only shake my head in disbelief and storm about it to the RBI.
Your problem is being looked at very seriously.
Just have patience and the will to fight.
These are teething problems. Some foolish officer somewhere has a warped 
mind.
Kanchan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 14:30
Subject: Re: [AI] help with opening a joint bank account


I am pasting IBA guidelines which clearly state that a visually impaired 
customer can open an account jointly with anybody including other visually 
impaired persons.
Show them this, I think a copy is available with xrcvc and IBA sites as 
well.

However, I can not guaranttee that ICICI people will accept the point, as 
firstly, they may insist to bring in a signed copy of circular, as absurdly 
some banks are doing, secondly all said and done, in India, nobody can 
compell anybody to obey the laws.
Remember what SBI came up with even after RBI circular and IBA 
guidelines!!!!!!!!

So, anyway, here it is, all the best!!!!


IBA CIRCULAR
No.CE/RB-1/vip/1766
November 18, 2008

The Chief Executives of all Member Banks

Dear Sirs,

Providing Banking Facilities to Visually Impaired Persons

We refer to our circular No.CIR/RB/1230 dated February 4, 2006 enclosing
procedural guidelines on the captioned subject. Subsequent to which, we have
received several representations from visually impaired persons regarding 
the
facilities and services being provided by banks and the ground level
difficulties being faced by them. As you are aware, procedural guidelines 
were
issued in the context of the order dated September 5, 2005 passed by the 
Court
of Chief Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities, New Delhi regarding
facilities to be provided to visually impaired persons.

Following complaints from Visually Impaired Persons, the Commissioner for
Persons with Disabilities had again issued an advisory to the Finance 
Ministry
and the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) in May 2008 to take necessary steps to
ensure that visually impaired persons are not denied normal banking
facilities.

Subsequently, the RBI, vide circular DBOD.No.Leg BC.91/09.07.005/2007-08 
dated
4th June 2008 advised banks that all banks must render the same services to 
a
visually impaired person as it would to any other person without
discrimination. The Circular stated that the banks, must provide the 
visually
impaired with every facility viz., cheque Book facility, ATM facility, net
banking facility, locker facility, retail loans, credit cards etc.

Following the above RBI circular, we had examined the need to revise the
procedural guidelines issued in February 2006 in consultation with IBA Sub-
committee on Customer Service and Customer Rights. We also had interactions
with a Mumbai based voluntary organization working for the welfare of 
Impaired
persons. The interactions indicated that technology innovation in the recent
years had greatly empowered visually impaired persons in leading a normal
life. Technology applications such as screen readers for computers and 
mobile
phones, which are being used by the visually impaired persons for online/net
banking, were demonstrated to us. Visually impaired persons can read and
understand printed documents etc. by first scanning them and then getting 
them
read out by the screen reader.

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Further, we have seen demonstration of finger print technology being 
developed
by software firm which would enable banks to store thumb impression of
visually impaired persons in place of signature in their system. Cheques
authenticated by them with thumb impression can be scanned and the image
compared with that stored in the system to honor the cheque. It is suggested
that when this technology is fully developed and made available in the 
market,
banks should consider integrating it with their core banking platform so 
that
cheque book facility can be extended to a larger segment of visually 
impaired
persons.

Our attention was also drawn to the United Nations Convention on the Rights 
of
Persons with Disabilities, which clearly commits to rights of persons with
disability and their access to services. Article 9 of the Convention enables
persons with disabilities to live independently and participate fully in all
aspects of life and also gives them access to facilities and services open 
or
provided to the public, both in urban and rural areas. Additionally, Article
12 states " Parties shall take all appropriate and effective measures to
ensure the equal right of persons with disabilities to own or inherit
property, to control their own financial affairs and to have equal access to
bank loans, mortgages and other forms of financial credit, and shall ensure
that persons with disabilities are not arbitrarily deprived of their
property."

It is expected that the guidelines issued by the RBI would result in an
increase in the number of ATM cards issued to visually impaired persons. 
This
would enhance the case for installation of talking ATMs to facilitate hassle
free operations by visually impaired persons. Banks are requested to 
consider
installing talking ATMs wherever feasible.

Keeping in view the above, we have revised the procedural guidelines for
providing banking facilities to visually impaired persons, copy of which is
enclosed. While finalizing the document the Sub-Committee took into
consideration that request for ATM facilities, online banking facilities 
etc.,
would come only from visually impaired persons who are capable of using the
applications. Members are requested to kindly consider the revised 
procedural
guidelines and issue necessary instructions to the operating staff.

Yours faithfully,

K Unnikrishnan
Dy. Chief Executive

Encl:A/a

PROCEDURAL GUIDELINES FOR BANKING FACILITIES TO VISUALLY IMPAIRED PERSONS

I. General Instructions

Banking facilities for visually impaired persons should be offered at all
branches of the bank.

Banks should not equate visually impaired customers with illiterate 
customers.

All Banks must provide the same facilities to a visually impaired
customer/prospective customer as it would to any other customer. But at the
same time the customers should be made aware of the risk involved in some of
these facilities which may be higher than that for a normal customer.

Additional facilities like reading and filling up of forms, slips, cheques
should be provided to a visually impaired customer, if required.

Banks should not deny any services to visually impaired customers including
visually impaired customers who use their thumb impression for operating the
bank account.

A visually impaired customer must not be forced to operate the bank account
jointly with any person or in the presence of any person.

Visually impaired customers may be allowed to appoint a person/persons as
their       Power of Attorney or Mandate Holder to operate their bank 
account
if the visually impaired customer so desires.

II. Opening of Bank Accounts

All banking products offered by the bank should be made available to 
visually
impaired persons.

The bank must follow the same procedure for opening the account of a 
visually
impaired person as it does for its other customers.

He / She must be allowed to open the account either singly or jointly with
others.

The Bank must allow the visually impaired customer to open a joint account
with anybody that he/she chooses including person(s) who is/are visually
impaired.

The Officer / Manager of the branch should read out the rules of business 
and
other terms and conditions in the presence of a witness, if required by the
customer.

The bank branch manager must inform a visually impaired customer/prospective
customer of his rights and liabilities before opening the account.

The documentation requirements of a visually impaired customer must be the
same as any other customer.

The account has to be clearly marked as "the account holder is visually
impaired".

III. Withdrawal of cash / Cheque book facility

Facilities for withdrawal of cash as are provided to all customers regarding
cash payments must be provided to visually impaired customers.

In case a visually impaired customer makes cash withdrawals at the bank then
the payment must be made in the presence of another bank employee/officer. 
No
outside witnesses are required unless the visually impaired customer 
requests
that such witnesses be present.

Operations should not be restricted to self-withdrawals.

Cheque book facility should not be denied to visually impaired person.

All procedures pertaining to the use of such cheque books by visually 
impaired
customers must be in accordance with that the other customers.

Cheques issued by visually impaired persons to third parties should be
honoured, if otherwise in order.

IV.    Credit Cards /Debit Cards

Visually impaired customers must be issued credit cards/debit cards on
request.

All rules and regulation regarding credit/debit card must be available on 
the
web-site of the respective bank in accessible format. These should be read 
out
to visually impaired persons and perceived risk factors explained to them.

Banks may consider issuing Credit/Debit Card with Photograph. This 
Photograph
will work as a identification/verification.


V.  ATM/Debit Cards

Visually impaired customers must be permitted to avail of ATM facilities.

Banks should also ensure that the ATMs are accessible to other categories of
persons with disabilities such as the orthopedically disabled.

VI. On Line Banking / Mobile Banking and Tele Banking/Phone Banking

All banks must have Accessible websites and conform to international
accessibility standards.

All customer facing applications such as web applications, desktop
applications and mobile applications should be accessible to visually 
impaired
persons.

The banks should have alternate methods of user authentication/password
verification.

All features especially those related to customer security must be 
accessible
visually impaired persons.

VII. Lockers

Visually impaired customers should be provided with locker facility on
request.

Suitable lockers conveniently located for operations may be allotted.

Bank procedures for issuing a locker to a visually impaired customer must be
the same as to any other customer.

A visually impaired customer may be given the following options for 
operation
of locker:

Operation - Singly
Operation - Singly with the assistance of a reliable person, as per the 
choice
of the Applicant.
Operation - Jointly.

A visually impaired customer may request the person in-charge of the locker 
to
be present when the locker is opened or to check if nothing has been left
behind or fallen after the locker is closed.

VIII. Loans

Loans must be made available to visually impaired customers as are offered 
to
other customers and their impairment of vision should not be a criterion for
sanctioning/denying a loan.

No additional burden of interest payment, collateral and other terms should 
be
imposed on the visually impaired customer.

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