Intellectuals, Would not comment on laws and other things which you are discussing. I had a talk with an author recently, and the same question was put forth in front of me. "How will you ensure that our E-copies are not going to used for distributing via piracy related sources"?
Good question, I understand their rights too, so uptill now the only solution which I know is like this. Here comes the development or technical part of my mail. Every publisher has its own website which enables us to place order. Now we get e-copy via whatever mode. Some of them send us the link to download, or some send in cd. Now question of protection. What I saw that one of the institute for law entrance koachings, (Prime Tutor www.primetutor.com), was distributing the solutions of all the previous years papers of major colleges in software form. What they did was they took our machine's number, then generated a user name and password by which we can access the software. Drawback of this system: After you format system, You have to request them again for generating user name and password. I am not saying that still piracy can not be done say what if person after entering into software coppies the data and paste it someware for distribution? But generally people won't do that provided that they have the zeal to pay money if its afortable. So what if publishers develop some system like this for PDF or Documents? I think this is the only way to secure such documents. Regards Amar Jain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ashish" <ashish2...@accessindia.org.in> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [AI] distributing books no, we can not and must not do this, following laws of our own interior? well I think it is the most dangerous thing, because then no one will follow any law. and situation will go out of hand. when we talk about not following laws that does not limit us to books only. that can endanger your right to live also, so this path should not be adopted. I think first of all we should start an awareness campaign like "right to read" we should take part in such awareness activities, and secondly help each other by providing books, but we should also take care that books should stay in Visually impaired community. I know this is very difficult and next to impossible but I think until nothing happens we have no other choice. and please note distributing books freely is not going to create awareness but it will create a bad image for us. so need of this time is to create awareness in publishers and talk with ministers and government officers. take care, regards. ashish ----- Original Message ----- From: "prateek aggarwal" <prateekagarwa...@gmail.com> To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [AI] distributing books I don’t know where this thread is onwarding to us, as the matter being so sensitive and more then 1000 listers and their 100000 views, seems that it’s enough for anyone to get boggled. I’m wondering why we are still in contention on the legality and illegality of books sharing, as we all somewhat concur about the errors in our existing laws. dear intellectuals, can’t we just forget about the laws created by state and follow the laws of our interior in this matter. I agree to subramani sir, that if it really wounds the hearts of authors, let them come with objections. And, if it doesn’t, we have two options left I.E. either to continue with the same process or to redirect ourselves to the old era of gawky life. Rajesh sir,, hundred percent agreed that Authors and publishers are not at all going to feel the need for making the materials accessible until they feel a pinch in their pockets by mass distributions of their copyrighted works amongst the disabled. The problem is, that even though the books are converted and shared on a good large basis now, yet I don’t remember any author standing against it. Seriously, I want this message to reach to the right ears and let them resist it. for sure they can resist only if they having better alternative, which means agreeing to provide accessible coppies to us. I’ve no problem if the publishers and authors agrees to provide accessible coppies on their original prize, but as the delhi seems too far from now, let’s continue the same and waite for that golden day. In fact, let’s enlarge the sharing, so that we can at least make them awake first. As per is giving the responsibility of distributions to major welfare organization is concern, can you guaranty that the blind persons who have received the books won’t share it with any non print disables? Ok, let me confess here, I’ve already shared a number of programming books with my cited counterparts. Then? who guaranties the legal distribution? About the Gandhi, if I’m correct, he has affirmed “work by your own” and theory of “ramrajya” which meant to follow your own subterranean rather any state or government. Centralizing the powers on one place is just an act of making the process autocratic which is certainly irrational keeping the fact in mind that india has a misfortune of having largest number of blind persons. Means largest harm of world if we make the process tyrannical. as a resounding declaration in frunt of more then 1000 listers and to any one else who may read this mail from the archives by googling or else, I’ll continue sharing the books with even more fervor until a better alternative comes. Well before I bind up this long mail, opinion expressed in this mail are clearly belongs to me and even though I don’t regret for any of my statements, yet you are free to disagree. wanna look inside me? My blog is the telescope: http://www.myfriendprateek.blogspot.com regards, prateek agarwal. Skype: Prateek_agarwal32 website: http://www.prateekagarwal.webs.com Best solutions for all your softwares/websites development needs. You tell, I’ll build. ---------- Original message ---------- From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:59:12 +0530 Subject: [AI] distributing books So dinesh, You are essentially saying that: 1. We should do our book related transactions through organizations of and for blind like NAB which can provide e text and daisy books to legally disabled persons on request. 2. refrain from publicly ask for books or post their availability notifications in fora of blind/disabled like AI Bookbole as it would entail their destruction sooner or later, and may make a book available to a non-disabled person. Now, here, what even such organizations are doing is nothing but violation of copyrights, till the law is amended at least. Making a fundamental right an exclusively institutionalized and secretive act, in my opinion, is cowardly and oversubmissive. I truly appreciate bookbole for their courage and openness. World, according to me, operates on extremely surfacical grounds and superfluous way. Authors and publishers are not at all going to feel the need for making the materials accessible until they feel a pinch in their pockets by mass distributions of their copyrighted works amongst the disabled. Anyway piracy is not highly uncommon even for general masses, so heavens are not going to fall if a few deserving disabled benefit. Besides, my earlier argument about widening the reach of books to individuals who otherwise would never have got a chance to appreciate them, remains to be answered by anybody. Besides, there is no justification of copyright or non-availability about educational books in accessible format to all. UNCRPD talks of access to cultural material and IPR not being a barrier to it. So, what are books but manifestations of cultural conscious? Exclusively Institutionalizing a basic need and right for the fear that its open manifestation would entail legal proceedings does not appeal to me. There was a time when living of blind/disabled and their pursuits of activity in general community were regarded dangerous and taxing resources too much. So, they were institutionalized as individuals fit for living only in institutions. What is wrong in that? Now, it is felt that books etc. should be provided secretly to disabled by their institutions as we are here for profit earnings and if we concede to demands of few persons with disabilities it would be too expensive and why bother about inferior minorities? So let the business of publishing flourish unabated without being open to widen its prospects of catering to wider but different audience, and let the disabled crave for even the basic of their needs and rights by forming organizations who do the same illegal thing but secretly. Let us bring it out in the open and strongly demand that right to read is the part and parcel of freedom of speech and expression and its illegitimate denial constitutes gross violation of our fundamental rights. Adequate safeguards can be envisaged once the right is recognized and accessibility is taken into account. We have been cowards all these years, fearing even to distribute even educational and informational content. Tagore had said: "Let my country awaken into heaven, where every one holds their head high, Where knowledge is free.. And let me add: Accessible." Lending names may not lend credibility to any cause, but it is more than sufficient if one person, say, Rajesh Asudani, thinks in a particular way. I am not bound by dead past and great names. And, yes, I am not willing to tolerate any comparisons of blind community to blood-thirsty acts, the person concerned has not withdrawn it still. I am pained as a person who is blind and who is willing to openly advocate rights of persons with disabilities and who is willing to put up a fight with so called intellectuals who would not budge until their monetary interests are impinged upon. The fact that by sharing a book amongst disabled, it may be available to a non-disabled person, is a bi-product and side effect and a necessary evil, which can be prevented by recognizing our most fundamental freedom of expression. I am maddened when I see blind children simply at the mercy of readers or writers and groping for material to study. 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