You are talking about recent times, but before this Windows didn't seem to have made any cconscious effort to develop a screen reader themselves like apple did. If one wanted a screen reader to work with windows -say- in 2005, we need to buy Jaws or windows eyes but no other. These are mostly community driven activity in which MS is putting some money.
Subramani -----Original Message----- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravi Paul Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:17 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] microsoft narrator is the best for sure great fan It is not true that there is no free windows screen reader. I don't know if you mean that there is no viable alternative to the expensive commercial screen readers. There are a couple of free screen readers these days. NVDA, a free and open source screen reader, is quite a viable alternative to the expensive, commercial software. Thunder, another free, but not open source screen reader, is supposed to be quite good as well. There is something called System Access to Go, which I know little about. There is also Fire Vox, a firefox extention that reads the Firefox menus and does a few more things. Have you ever tried the ones mentioned above? or are you talking on the basis of what you know? If you are interested in those screen readers mentioned earlier, do get back to me and I will point you towards their respective websites. Regards, Ravi Paul On 12/10/09, Subramani L <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> wrote: > That is certainly encouraging. At least they are trying to make up for > lack of a free software in windows. > > Subramani > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravi Paul > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:58 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] microsoft narrator is the best for sure great fan > > By the way, having followed NVDA's development for over a year, I must > inform you that Microsoft had funded NVDA to support Internet > Explorer, UI automation and windows 7 in general. > Regards, Ravi Paul > > On 12/10/09, Ravi Paul <ravipaul.cha...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I should not be mistaken for a Narrator fan, or a fan of any other >> screen reader for that matter. I don't even use it as my secondary >> screen reader. Just because I tell that one should make an objective >> assessment of a product and then comment, it does not mean I am a fan >> of anything. However, I do agree with you that Narrator should be >> improved by a long way. I even believe that, given a choice between >> NVDA and Narrator, I would choose, without any hesitation, the former. >> There is no comparison between Voice over and Narrator; the former is >> better by a long way from >> what I have red and listened to. Narrator is mainly good for emergency >> situations. >> My earlier comments in another thread was against one making >> generalizations without even trying the software and giving it a fair >> chance. >> Regards, Ravi Paul >> >> On 12/10/09, Subramani L <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> wrote: >>> Oh boy, quite a fan club for the dear old narrator; but seriously, > guys >>> don't you think MS should do to narrator what Apple has done to voice >>> over? Don't 90 per cent of PC users across the globe (in which I > assume >>> we V I folks form a good number) deserve a good screen reading > option? >>> What do you all think? >>> >>> Subramani >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Suman > Kumar >>> Bhokray >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:25 PM >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: [AI] microsoft narrator is the best for sure great fan >>> >>> hello i am a great fan of microsoft narrator >>> i am using it as a main screen reader sins the time of windows xp > lonch >>> i >>> think 2003 >>> i can do most of the job with narrator >>> the only thing u need to use narrator is some time to lurn it >>> ones u know the keys to use it then u r dun u will never use any > other >>> softwares for reading svreen >>> i am not jokeing >>> i used jaws and NVDA only before 7months >>> best things of narrator >>> 1: its every ware >>> 2:its free just u need to have your copy of windows >>> 3:how meny can shop for the jaws i meen cost >>> 4:use windows key +u keys to open it >>> 5:microsoft sam is also used as TTS in apple IPOD >>> 6:no instal needed >>> 7:it is the best >>> bye bye >>> Suman Kumar Bhokray >>> skype: sbhokray >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in> >>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 4:10 PM >>> Subject: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 44, Issue 31 >>> >>> >>>> Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to >>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>> n >>>> >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: hi, regarding awardees (Subramani L) >>>> 2. Re: Windoes Narrator (Subramani L) >>>> 3. Re: Windoes Narrator (Ravi Paul) >>>> 4. Re: Windoes Narrator (Ravi Paul) >>>> 5. How to delete history in Firefox? (ashik) >>>> 6. Re: How to delete history in Firefox? (Ravi Paul) >>>> 7. Re: Visually-impaired running for ATM card for 3 yrs >>>> (Mahesh Panicker) >>>> 8. Re: help regarding toefl (firoz) >>>> 9. Re: Skype 4.1 scripts: (Vijay Kumar P.V.S.) >>>> 10. Re: Skype 4.1 scripts: (Ravi Paul) >>>> >>>> >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:34:57 +0530 >>>> From: "Subramani L" <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] hi, regarding awardees >>>> To: "raghuraman" <thinkdontbl...@gmail.com>, >>>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>> > <fda23f70e778f94293c28128b654e11c01e82...@dhtpmlmail.deccanherald.co.in> >>>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>> >>>> The four people I spoke to are Kanchan, Hari Raghavan, Madhu Bala >>> Sharma >>>> (all of whom are our members) plus Ramesh Narasimhan who represented >>> IBM >>>> to collect the award. >>>> >>>> Subramani >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of >>> raghuraman >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:23 PM >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Subject: [AI] hi, regarding awardees >>>> >>>> friends, if you dont mind please tell the names of the awardees > and >>>> their qualifications. >>>> who were honoured this year by the govt >>>> cheers raghu >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>>> n >>>> >>>> Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:37:21 +0530 >>>> From: "Subramani L" <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Windoes Narrator >>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>> > <fda23f70e778f94293c28128b654e11c01e82...@dhtpmlmail.deccanherald.co.in> >>>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>> >>>> Glad that you understand what "narrator" reads; perhaps you are >>> sitting >>>> in a quiet room not in a big hall where there are at least 50 >>>> journalists making noise. >>>> >>>> Subramani >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravi > Paul >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:01 AM >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Windoes Narrator >>>> >>>> Narator bashing. absolute narator bashing. I certainly have found it >>>> useful when the other screen readers do not work. It is light on >>>> system, so when the other screen readers do not respond,narator > could >>>> be useful. In my case, JAWS does not work in the windows logon > screen >>>> due to some vidio intersept problem (JAWS even reads the characters > in >>>> the password edit area), Narator helps me get around that problem. > It >>>> is more light on system resources than even NVDA (which itself is >>>> quite light) >>>> Don't generalise unless you have made a thorough analysis of a >>>> software. Just because it is not good for you, it does not mean the >>>> software itself is not good. Go to the Wikipedia page of Narator > where >>>> you will find the uses of it. One should not misleed others just on >>>> one experience. Narator is not the best screen reader, but it is >>>> better than not having anything at all. >>>> Regards, Ravi Paul >>>> >>>> On 12/9/09, govind reddy <sgred...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Dear Subramani sir: >>>>> It's true that not a narrator, but Windows irritator. But the same >>>>> helps when the JAWS doesn't work. It's very much improved in Vista, >>>>> and hope for the same in Windows7 since I haven't tested it with my >>>>> own hands. To stop narrator from speaking, Place the your curser on >>>>> the narrator and press Ault F4, it'll ask you to close Narrator and >>>>> select yes to close and it'll go. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With Warm Regards, >>>>> "Don't call me a flower, I'll dry up; Don't call me a deer, I'll > run >>>>> away; Don't call me a moon, I'll wane away; Call me a shadow, I'll > be >>>>> with you always." >>>>> Govind. >>>>> Mobile: 9959392651, 9030915271. >>>>> Email: sgred...@gmail.com >>>>> My blog: >>>>> http://govindhowsweet.blogspot.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with >>>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > changes, >>>> please >>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>>> n >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> >>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>>> n >>>> >>>> Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:50:00 +0530 >>>> From: Ravi Paul <ravipaul.cha...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Windoes Narrator >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <81624b7c0912090120w4e0f072fm367931ab46eee...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>> >>>> Admittedly, Narrator's accent is not the most understandable of them >>>> all; although it is certainly not as poor as you made it out to be. >>>> As I said, you cant generalize just based on your experience and say >>>> that a software is poor. Many even find JAWS's accent difficult to >>>> understand, but that does not mean JAWS speaks some gibberish; so > with >>>> NVDA where Espeak's accent is difficult to understand. Moreover, >>>> Microsoft Sam (the mail voice which you would likely have heard) is >>>> not the only voice in Narrator. There are other voices too. >>>> Your generalizations are personal and circumstantial, and not >>>> necessarily true with all people and not at all times. A bit more >>>> trying, you might understand Narator is not as bad as you think... >>>> Regards, Ravi Paul >>>> >>>> On 12/9/09, Subramani L <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> wrote: >>>>> Glad that you understand what "narrator" reads; perhaps you are >>> sitting >>>>> in a quiet room not in a big hall where there are at least 50 >>>>> journalists making noise. >>>>> >>>>> Subramani >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravi >>> Paul >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:01 AM >>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Windoes Narrator >>>>> >>>>> Narator bashing. absolute narator bashing. I certainly have found > it >>>>> useful when the other screen readers do not work. It is light on >>>>> system, so when the other screen readers do not respond,narator >>> could >>>>> be useful. In my case, JAWS does not work in the windows logon > screen >>>>> due to some vidio intersept problem (JAWS even reads the characters >>> in >>>>> the password edit area), Narator helps me get around that problem. >>> It >>>>> is more light on system resources than even NVDA (which itself is >>>>> quite light) >>>>> Don't generalise unless you have made a thorough analysis of a >>>>> software. Just because it is not good for you, it does not mean the >>>>> software itself is not good. Go to the Wikipedia page of Narator >>> where >>>>> you will find the uses of it. One should not misleed others just on >>>>> one experience. Narator is not the best screen reader, but it is >>>>> better than not having anything at all. >>>>> Regards, Ravi Paul >>>>> >>>>> On 12/9/09, govind reddy <sgred...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Dear Subramani sir: >>>>>> It's true that not a narrator, but Windows irritator. But the same >>>>>> helps when the JAWS doesn't work. It's very much improved in > Vista, >>>>>> and hope for the same in Windows7 since I haven't tested it with > my >>>>>> own hands. To stop narrator from speaking, Place the your curser > on >>>>>> the narrator and press Ault F4, it'll ask you to close Narrator > and >>>>>> select yes to close and it'll go. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With Warm Regards, >>>>>> "Don't call me a flower, I'll dry up; Don't call me a deer, I'll > run >>>>>> away; Don't call me a moon, I'll wane away; Call me a shadow, I'll >>> be >>>>>> with you always." >>>>>> Govind. >>>>>> Mobile: 9959392651, 9030915271. >>>>>> Email: sgred...@gmail.com >>>>>> My blog: >>>>>> http://govindhowsweet.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with >>>>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>> >>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>> changes, >>>>> please >>>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>>>> n >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>>>> n >>>>> >>>>> Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with >>>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > changes, >>> >>>>> please >>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>> n >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:56:45 +0530 >>>> From: Ravi Paul <ravipaul.cha...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Windoes Narrator >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <81624b7c0912090126n613dfd6cuea6211ce5c8b3...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>> >>>> By the way, for those of who want to try, you might try increasing > the >>>> speed and the pitch which might help you better understand the > accent. >>>> I think you could also increase the volume. Keep tabbing around till >>>> you hear something like voice... press the spacebar and change the >>>> settings. >>>> Regards, Ravi paul >>>> >>>> On 12/9/09, Ravi Paul <ravipaul.cha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Admittedly, Narrator's accent is not the most understandable of > them >>>>> all; although it is certainly not as poor as you made it out to > be. >>>>> As I said, you cant generalize just based on your experience and > say >>>>> that a software is poor. Many even find JAWS's accent difficult to >>>>> understand, but that does not mean JAWS speaks some gibberish; so >>> with >>>>> NVDA where Espeak's accent is difficult to understand. Moreover, >>>>> Microsoft Sam (the mail voice which you would likely have heard) is >>>>> not the only voice in Narrator. There are other voices too. >>>>> Your generalizations are personal and circumstantial, and not >>>>> necessarily true with all people and not at all times. A bit more >>>>> trying, you might understand Narator is not as bad as you think... >>>>> Regards, Ravi Paul >>>>> >>>>> On 12/9/09, Subramani L <lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in> wrote: >>>>>> Glad that you understand what "narrator" reads; perhaps you are >>> sitting >>>>>> in a quiet room not in a big hall where there are at least 50 >>>>>> journalists making noise. >>>>>> >>>>>> Subramani >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ravi >>> Paul >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:01 AM >>>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Windoes Narrator >>>>>> >>>>>> Narator bashing. absolute narator bashing. I certainly have found > it >>>>>> useful when the other screen readers do not work. It is light on >>>>>> system, so when the other screen readers do not respond,narator >>> could >>>>>> be useful. In my case, JAWS does not work in the windows logon >>> screen >>>>>> due to some vidio intersept problem (JAWS even reads the > characters >>> in >>>>>> the password edit area), Narator helps me get around that > problem. >>> It >>>>>> is more light on system resources than even NVDA (which itself is >>>>>> quite light) >>>>>> Don't generalise unless you have made a thorough analysis of a >>>>>> software. Just because it is not good for you, it does not mean > the >>>>>> software itself is not good. Go to the Wikipedia page of Narator >>> where >>>>>> you will find the uses of it. One should not misleed others just > on >>>>>> one experience. Narator is not the best screen reader, but it is >>>>>> better than not having anything at all. >>>>>> Regards, Ravi Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/9/09, govind reddy <sgred...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Dear Subramani sir: >>>>>>> It's true that not a narrator, but Windows irritator. But the > same >>>>>>> helps when the JAWS doesn't work. It's very much improved in > Vista, >>>>>>> and hope for the same in Windows7 since I haven't tested it with > my >>>>>>> own hands. To stop narrator from speaking, Place the your curser > on >>>>>>> the narrator and press Ault F4, it'll ask you to close Narrator > and >>>>>>> select yes to close and it'll go. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With Warm Regards, >>>>>>> "Don't call me a flower, I'll dry up; Don't call me a deer, I'll >>> run >>>>>>> away; Don't call me a moon, I'll wane away; Call me a shadow, > I'll >>> be >>>>>>> with you always." >>>>>>> Govind. >>>>>>> Mobile: 9959392651, 9030915271. >>>>>>> Email: sgred...@gmail.com >>>>>>> My blog: >>>>>>> http://govindhowsweet.blogspot.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with >>>>>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>> changes, >>>>>> please >>>>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>>>>> n >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>> >>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>> changes, >>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>>>>> n >>>>>> >>>>>> Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>> with >>>>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>> >>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other >>> changes, >>>>>> please >>>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>> n >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 5 >>>> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 14:57:43 +0530 >>>> From: "ashik" <ashikhir...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: [AI] How to delete history in Firefox? >>>> To: "Access India" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Message-ID: <004e01ca78b1$dece5890$0201a...@ashikhirc89b1c> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> Dear Members, >>>> >>>> I use Firefox. In this browser, I want to delete all my history. > How >>> can >>>> I do it? >>>> >>>> Thanks in anticipation. >>>> - - - >>>> Ashik Hirani >>>> Landline phone: 02849-242233 >>>> Skype: ashikali.hirani >>>> I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my >>> necklace. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 6 >>>> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:45:37 +0530 >>>> From: Ravi Paul <ravipaul.cha...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] How to delete history in Firefox? >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <81624b7c0912090215g73bf061du6f519bc77cfe4...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>> >>>> Press ctrl+shift+delete and follow those instructions, which, could >>>> be different with versions... >>>> Regards, Ravi Paul >>>> >>>> On 12/9/09, ashik <ashikhir...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Dear Members, >>>>> >>>>> I use Firefox. In this browser, I want to delete all my history. >>> How >>>>> can I >>>>> do it? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in anticipation. >>>>> - - - >>>>> Ashik Hirani >>>>> Landline phone: 02849-242233 >>>>> Skype: ashikali.hirani >>>>> I would prefer flowers on my table rather than diamonds in my >>> necklace. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with >>>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > changes, >>> >>>>> please >>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>> n >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 7 >>>> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:53:21 +0530 >>>> From: Mahesh Panicker <maheshspanic...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually-impaired running for ATM card for 3 yrs >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <9399457f0912090223g5f9ea7f1u29aaf5525565d...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>> >>>> I, as someone who had quite a terrible time with the PNB people on a >>>> similara issue can say that PNB is the most dificult when it comes > to >>>> ATMs and other facilities for the disabled. 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Panicker >>>> C123; >>>> Dayanand Colony; >>>> Lajpat Nagar4; >>>> >>>> New delhi india. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 8 >>>> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:59:07 +0530 >>>> From: "firoz" <firoj...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] help regarding toefl >>>> To: "raghuraman" <thinkdontbl...@gmail.com>, >>>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Message-ID: <47a703a8aaed4898ab61d080a2287...@pc> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>>> reply-type=original >>>> >>>> Free TOEFL sample test online >>>> >>>> July 10, 2008 >>>> >>>> There's good news for students preparing to take the Test of English >>> as >>>> a Foreign Language (TOEFL). ETS, the creator of TOEFL, has launched > a >>>> free service whereby test takers can now download sample questions >>> taken >>>> from the actual test from the website < >>>> http://www.ets.org/toefl> >>>> at no >>>> extra cost. The facility also allows test takers to answer the >>> questions >>>> and check their answers online. >>>> >>>> The TOEFL iBT is the international test that measures students' > grasp >>> of >>>> the English language and qualifies them for admissons to foriegn >>>> universities (over 6,000 universities in 110 countries use TOEFL >>> scores >>>> as a basis for admission). The new facility will enable students to >>>> download sample questions from all four English language skill areas >>> -- >>>> listening, reading, speaking and writing. >>>> >>>> The information is located under the "Test Preparation" and "Test >>>> Content" tabs of the website ( www.ets.org/toefl), and is in > addition >>> to >>>> the free TOEFL iBT Sampler that is available when a test taker >>> registers >>>> for the test. >>>> >>>> Speaking about the development, Philip Tabbiner, Senior Vice > President >>>> of ETS Global, said, "The test measures an integrated set of English >>>> skills and the free practice site offers real-life examples of >>>> conversations, lectures, reading passages, speaking and writing >>>> questions and spoken and written responses." >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "raghuraman" <thinkdontbl...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:25 PM >>>> Subject: [AI] help regarding toefl >>>> >>>> >>>>> friends, i would like to prepare for "toefl" >>>>> so could someone share their materials for preparing this test and >>>>> tell me where could i get fruitful materials in this regard >>>>> cheers raghu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>> n >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 9 >>>> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:05:47 +0530 >>>> From: "Vijay Kumar P.V.S." <vijay.palakod...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Skype 4.1 scripts: >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <fc54d8b00912090235k439b589bo28e79a019e72...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >>>> >>>> Hi friends: >>>> >>>> Some of my friends said that, though the scripts for latest version > of >>>> Skype available, these won?t make the Skype fully accessible. Is > this >>>> right? That?s why I couldn?t update my Skype, Which is at present > 3.8. >>>> If anybody is using the latest version of Skype, please advice me on >>>> this issue. >>>> >>>> Many thanks in advance, >>>> >>>> With warm regards >>>> VIJAY >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "Man needs his difficulties because they are necessary to enjoy >>>> success." A.P.J. Abdul Kalam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 10 >>>> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:10:12 +0530 >>>> From: Ravi Paul <ravipaul.cha...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Skype 4.1 scripts: >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <81624b7c0912090240m3b00cbc1o7d10bf5b91b04...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >>>> >>>> Did you check the websites I had suggested earlier? >>>> Regards, Ravi Paul >>>> >>>> On 12/9/09, Vijay Kumar P.V.S. <vijay.palakod...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi friends: >>>>> >>>>> Some of my friends said that, though the scripts for latest version >>> of >>>>> Skype available, these won?t make the Skype fully accessible. Is > this >>>>> right? That?s why I couldn?t update my Skype, Which is at present >>> 3.8. >>>>> If anybody is using the latest version of Skype, please advice me > on >>>>> this issue. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks in advance, >>>>> >>>>> With warm regards >>>>> VIJAY >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "Man needs his difficulties because they are necessary to enjoy >>>>> success." A.P.J. Abdul Kalam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with >>>>> the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > changes, >>> >>>>> please >>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>> >>>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>> n >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> AccessIndia mailing list >>>> AccessIndia@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>> n >>>> >>>> >>>> End of AccessIndia Digest, Vol 44, Issue 31 >>>> ******************************************* >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >>> n >>> >>> Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with >>> the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> >>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i > n >>> >> > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i > n > > Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. 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