Any time is good. Lets call on the local numbers Mumbai is 39804444.
Let someone take the lead and decide the time.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
Please repost the amendment approved by cabinet.
I can not seem to locate it, though I have commented on it in past in this
very group.
Regards
"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
Him."
--Arthur C. Clarke
(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 5:54 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
Am working on a report based on your mail.
Subramani
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:38 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
Nobody leading the Hyderabad charge as yet.But need to coordinate with
as
many organisations. Will you be able to organise the dharna, press
conference or get some press or contact your MPS.
MPS are at home till about 14th after which they will be in Delhi. So
folks
we need to work on this issue immediately.
K
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.
----- Original Message -----
From: "payal kapoor" <payal.thereside...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
k
what is happening out of hyderabad? any persons here yet?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
Akhilesh,
1. Any press is good press at the moment. Print media or channel does
not
matter. We are all trying for some coordination in Delhi and we would
also want local media.The more the merrier the more varied the
better.
If you have a contact please let us know.
2. I know about the exams-lets see when they are really going to
table it
in Parliament. If at that time you can come and join for even a
couple of
hours it will be good.
3. You cant file for an injunction at this stage. You have to wait
till
the Act is passed and then you can challenge its consitutionality.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.
----- Original Message -----
From: "akhilesh" <akhil.akhi...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
Hello mam,
This is Akhilesh from Delhi.
Organizing the press conference locally can produce results very
well,
but can we make an approach to huge channels like CNN IBN, IBN live,
and some most watched news channels of this type?
I know very well that people are here in this list that can produce
such results within 24 hours!!!
North India is reeling under the extreme heat of exams so we can not
expect too much from students in spite of their willingness to come
to
dharna.
this question May be sound a bit impractical, however, your views
are
requested.
Can we seek for injunction before this bill is tabled in both the
houses?
Thanks and regards,
Akhilesh.
On 4/7/10, Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote:
While listing the organisations I seem to have inadvertently missed
Inclusive Planet I do apolagise specially since Inclusive Planet
has
been
very active and has added immense value.
Rajesh, the clauses proposed by the Government are being mailed to
this
list
by Rahul in some time.
The research paper is already on the Inclusive Planet website for
reference.
In the meantime I would really request you to let me know about the
possibility of organising a press conference in Nagpur and meeting
your
MPS
and of course organising a dharna on short notice.I hope it will
all be
possible.
Kanchan
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate & Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Copyright
I remember a few days ago, proposed amendment was posted here in
this
list
and a few persons including myself had commented on it.
It is in public domain and I can not find the link of that blog
from
which
it was taken.
Would be grateful if somebody could point me to that!!!
I think copyright issue legally affects blind much more than any
other
disability and so we should plunge into effort wholeheartedly.
Regards
"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to
create
Him."
--Arthur C. Clarke
(Rajesh Asudani)
Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Kanchan
Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:21 AM
To: Access India; Voice Vision. ; rpp-in...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Mahesh Chandrasekar; Javed Abidi; Secretariat
Subject: [AI] Copyright
Friends,
From time to time we have had discussions on the issue of
copyright.
As
per my usual practis, I would like to inform everybody on this
list so
that you are aware and u can spread the word. We have reached a
very
delicate and important stage in this matter.
I will try and cover in short what has been happening and what
needs
to
happen and what may happen in the next few days and god forbid
next
few
years.
1. Generally when we audio record books, exchange digital texts,
make
copies in braill or make copies in large font we are infringing
copyright
laws but because we are visually challenged we have an exemption
under
what is called a "fair use" clause.
2. However lots of international organisations wont let us use
their
material because India does not have a specific exemption for the
print
disabled.
3. Prof Vinod Sena realised this problem in 2002 and even made
a
presentation to a parliamentary committee.
4. In 2006 we found on the website of the Copyright registry that
there
was a specific exemption clause proposed for the print disabled.
5. The Print Access Coordination Committee PACC consisting of
several
organisations sent in our representation stating the flaws in the
proposed
amendment and also what we wanted from the government. Sometime
later
CIS
Bangalore also sent in their representation.
5. many leading intellectual property rights lawyers were
consulted
and a
presentation was even made to their association.
6. During 2007-2009 every Copyright registrar was sensitised and
discussions were held in every forum possible.
7. In the meantime Book Share came to India and the Daisy forum of
India
has been entering into agreements with Publishers. Therefore some
of
the
material that we need can be digitalised without worrying about
infringement.
8. In 2009 the Right to Read campaign was started and most of you
know
the
details of the events.
9. In November 2009 we got to know that the clause being proposed
by
the
government is the same clause they had suggested in 2006 and they
have
not
considered our representations.
10. A delegation met Kapil Sibal the minister in charge. I must
inform
you
that the meeting did not produce the results that we required.
11. Subsequently we found out that the Copyright amendments
including
the
claus pertaining to the print disabled had been discussed by the
cabinet
and now was pending to be introduced as a bill. Then the shocker
came
because we found out from our various sources that the clause was
worse
than we could imagine.
10. We have written to Mr. Sibal asking him to set up a committee
before
the bill is introduced in Parliament and there is no reply.
11. We have been having many in house consultations and I am happy
to
say
that all the 3 National organisations AICB, NAB, NFB which work
with
the
visually challenged have agreed in principle and are working
together
with the Daisy Forum of India, CIS,XRCVC and Sightsavers.
12. Last week we had urgent consultations in Delhi as we found out
that
the government would be tabling the bill in Parliament anytime
after
15th
April.
13. At this meeting we we decided
1. To continue to ask for a committee before the Bill reaches
parliament
2. At the same time prepare for stalling the bill in Parliament
before
it
becomes law so that it can be referred to a standing committee and
for
this purpose
a. Have a press conference
B. meet MPS
c. Have a dharna
3. In case it becomes a law then challenge it in court.
14. We have been contacting MPs and on Friday -Saturday we met the
BJP
i.e. LK Advani, Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jetly. These were good
meetings
where of course they promised us their support. In the past we
have
met
Moiley and Supriya Sule and a couple of others.Efforts are on to
try
and
meet some others.
15. Now what can we all do-
a. Write to each of our MPs or better still try to meet them
personally
and quickly
explaining the problem of print access and how we manage to read,
asking for a committee to be formed by the HRD Ministry just like
the
one
they set up for producers-Amir Khan and JavedAkhtar etc.
. If you need further briefings then please contact XRCVC or CIS.
Both
organisations are a part of the National Access Alliance.
b. Start talking to the local media. this is important. If the
articles
are published then please get in touch with me off the list. We
need
the
clippings or softcopies.
c. Those in North India be ready for the dharna. Sorry cant give
specifics
at this stage and on this list. Get in touch with me.
d. Others who are inclined to have their own dharnas in different
parts of
the country also need to coordinate so that the effort is useful.
I would like to conclude this note by just saying that there is no
point
in saying that the people in power are heartless or that the
disabled
are
ignored...... We have strength, we have a voice and we are doing
right.
We have strategy, we have coordination, we have put in a lot of
hardwork
to be here. Now it is time that we get together and achieve what
we
have
been striving for for so many years. Each of us on this list makes
a
difference and each of us is now required to do our best and our
little
bit. If we miss this oppirtunity we will never be forgiven by
posterity.
kanchan
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