I fully agree with Mr. amarnath in this connection. Dear vashishth sir, Can we not do anything about it through our courts? at least we should give it a thought, sir. your positive reply is expected. With regards, Akhilesh Kumar Dahiya.
On 1/31/11, amarnath de <amarnath.de...@hotmail.com> wrote: > If UID cannot serve our purpose then what is the need of it? The government > is misusing our income and giving our earned money to its agency and > generating income for some persons for meaningless purpose. It is making the > system more complex rather than simplifying. > > It is unnecessarily putting burden to us. > > Hope, government may use the database to make our life simple as suggested. > > Amarnath. > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 2:14 PM > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? > >> So, am I correct that UID is hardly anything more than an additional wrung >> >> of formalities to be completed to obtain various services in India? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohammed Asif >> >> iqbal >> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:28 PM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >> >> Sorry for delay in replying. >> Please understand that UIDAI is not issuing card rather it is just >> issueing >> letter which contains number. However bottom portion of the letter can be >> torn and stored for remembering the numbers. State government is free to >> issue card that is if it serve their purpose. >> Please also understand that UIDAI is not superceeding ministery and it has >> to work with existing ministry hence it is not collecting data on cast/ >> community/ religion/. SC/ST/ OBC/ disability as well as it is not >> empowered >> to verify whether one is able/ disabled. >> Thanks and hope this clearifies. >> Asif >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of SC Vashishth >> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:34 AM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >> >> Dear Harish, >> >> Sadly that is not so. Its not only "for the disabled" but of the disabled >> also wanting this. The degree of social acceptance of different >> disabilities >> is different and this is a harsh truth. While those with visual >> impairments >> may be keen in getting their disability included on UID but those with few >> other disabilities have not been comfortable in declaring the same on the >> face of it for the fear of discrimination and other obvious reasons. >> >> Another reason that I see is that not all disabilities enumerated in the >> PWD >> Act have got benefited from being declared as a Person with disability >> except few. Thus for them, including it on the UID carries no benefit. On >> the contrary, they fear this might lead to discrimination. >> >> May be UID representatives/Mr. Asif could answer the specific reason as to >> why this was dropped and what can be done to salvage it at least for >> those >> who are willing and want to include this. >> regards >> >> >> 29 January 2011 11:14, Harish Kotian <har...@accessindia.org.in> wrote: >> >>> Dear Vashisht >>> >>> In my opinion, it will be those "for the disabled" who would be opposing >>> inclusion of disability in the UI Card. For, the disabled themselves >>> understand the hassel of carrying a bag full of ID cards for proof of >>> disability. >>> >>> More importantly, this could have been the perfect answer for getting >>> access to copyright material internationally and obtaining immunity from >>> fair use clause. >>> >>> I think we must do everything possible to resalvage it if possible to do >>> so. >>> >>> If one chooses not to disclose this information to the UI authority that >>> should be fine, later, they should not cry for not having done so. Just >>> because of a handful of persons, we cannot throw out a system which would >>> help majority of persons. >>> >>> Harish Kotian. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "SC Vashishth" <subhashvashis...@gmail.com> >>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>> >>> >>> > Rajesh, a large number of persons with disabilities do not want their >>> > disability on their UID Cards. They want to be known by their name and >>> > number and not by their disability. Argument - when you don't write >>> > conditions such as Heart Problems, Knee Problems etc or >>> > Castes/categories such as SC/ST, then why disability which is just a >>> > condition that persons live with. >>> > >>> > This debate perhaps has led to UID dropping disability from the face of >>> the >>> > card. >>> > >>> > Another issue - UID's legal mandate doesn't require it to be a >>> > replacing >>> > document for various other certificates such as a disability >> certificate. >>> > This also has a politics of maintaining relevance of certain >>> > departments/ministries that have a stake in the disability. And they do >>> not >>> > want to let go their importance. Since, if every important information >>> comes >>> > on UID then they fear it might render them redundant such as a PAN Card >>> > (Separate Ministry), Ration Card (Separate Ministry), (Disability >>> > Certificate (Min. of Health) etc...... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On 28 January 2011 17:48, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> No asif, it does not help, if UDAI does not cover disability. >>> >> Sorry. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto: >>> >> accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohammed Asif >>> iqbal >>> >> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:20 PM >>> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>> >> >>> >> Hi Amar, >>> >> As you are aware; I am currently working with UIDAI. With mandate of >>> >> enrolling Pwd. >>> >> No, data on disability is not being collected. >>> >> UID only collects data on name, date of birth, father's name/ mother's >>> >> name/ >>> >> guardian/ City address. And Email/ mobile no. is optional. >>> >> Hope this helps. >>> >> I will be coming to Bombay soon and hope to catch up with you and >>> explain >>> >> this in details. >>> >> Mohammed Asif Iqbal >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>> >> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar Jain >>> >> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 1:35 PM >>> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >> Subject: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability? >>> >> >>> >> Dear All, >>> >> We are aware that UIDAI will include disability in their database. I >>> >> saw the form on eaadhaar.com as the form on UIDAI website was >>> >> unreadable by Jaws, but it does not ask for disability related >>> >> information. >>> >> So would like to know if there is anybody who has got UID which >>> >> includes their disability detail, and procedure which is to be >>> >> followed? >>> >> As per help desk soon UID will be allotted in Mumbai. >>> >> Regards >>> >> Amar Jain. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Amar Jain. >>> >> Website: www.amarjain.com >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential >>> and >>> >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >> are >>> >> addressed. 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