Hi,
I think , including disability in the uid can be made optional so that those
who want to disclose their disability can include it and those who want to
hide it will also be happy
Renuka E,
Section Officer,
ICT Centre for Visually Challlenged,
CHMK Library,
University ofCalicut,
Malappuram Dist.,
Kerala.
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From: "Vikas Gupta" <vikas...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?
Dear Subhashji and others,
I have been struggling with this issue. I have no clear answer. I
simply want to briefly present a senario. It is although true that in
some cases, if we disclose our identity in advance, then we can expect
some arrangements for us before we reach at that place. However, a
contrary fact is that in India as well as outside, many times it had
happened with me that I could make my way in the mainstream without
declaring my disability. Thanks to for example internet communication
in some cases and due to the norm of confidentiality in others. I was
selected for various things based on my performance. Therefore, in
such cases, generally what happens is that people come to know about
my disability not before I have established my credencials. When they
come to know about it, then some times they are amused to find a
visually impaired in that role, which would lead to quite a lot of
admiration for me by them. Whilst at some other occasions, I have
realized that as soon as they come to know about my disability, they
start showing biased attitude. (I have skipped examples, because I am
in a hurry.) However, as you can see, in both kinds of cases, mention
of my disability has created difference in the attitude of others
towards me. I am not saying that because of this reason, we should or
we can hide our disability. However, the concern is somewhat
different. I am worried that the centralized storage of data and an
increasingly mendatory situation of its demonstration should not lead
to a situation where it becomes for an individual disabled to apply
his mind and decide where it is favorable or dangerous to mention
his/her disability in a world which is surely full of biased atitudes.
On 1/30/11, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <sriniv...@srinivasu.org> wrote:
I to agree. Including disability in UI would enable us to carry just one
card.
On 1/30/11, Dr. mittal <srmit...@gmail.com> wrote:
I too strongly support to launch such a campaign as it will help all
persons
with disabilities to be free from all hastles of carrying disability
certificate.
Thanks and regards Prof. Mittal.
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of amarnath de
Sent: 29 January 2011 20:29
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?
Dear Harish,
I also support of inclusion of disability to UI card.
Because, I think if I have an UI card I need not to carry handicapped
certificate or any kind of concession forms (including Railway
concession
form) to claim concessions in future.
Can accessindia launch a campaign in this direction?
Regards.
Yours sincerely,
Amarnath De.
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From: "Harish Kotian" <har...@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:14 AM
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?
Dear Vashisht
In my opinion, it will be those "for the disabled" who would be
opposing inclusion of disability in the UI Card. For, the disabled
themselves understand the hassel of carrying a bag full of ID cards
for proof of disability.
More importantly, this could have been the perfect answer for getting
access to copyright material internationally and obtaining immunity
from fair use clause.
I think we must do everything possible to resalvage it if possible to
do so.
If one chooses not to disclose this information to the UI authority
that should be fine, later, they should not cry for not having done
so. Just because of a handful of persons, we cannot throw out a system
which would help majority of persons.
Harish Kotian.
----- Original Message -----
From: "SC Vashishth" <subhashvashis...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?
Rajesh, a large number of persons with disabilities do not want their
disability on their UID Cards. They want to be known by their name
and number and not by their disability. Argument - when you don't
write conditions such as Heart Problems, Knee Problems etc or
Castes/categories such as SC/ST, then why disability which is just a
condition that persons live with.
This debate perhaps has led to UID dropping disability from the face
of the card.
Another issue - UID's legal mandate doesn't require it to be a
replacing document for various other certificates such as a disability
certificate.
This also has a politics of maintaining relevance of certain
departments/ministries that have a stake in the disability. And they
do not want to let go their importance. Since, if every important
information comes on UID then they fear it might render them
redundant such as a PAN Card (Separate Ministry), Ration Card
(Separate Ministry), (Disability Certificate (Min. of Health)
etc......
On 28 January 2011 17:48, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
wrote:
No asif, it does not help, if UDAI does not cover disability.
Sorry.
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohammed Asif
iqbal
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?
Hi Amar,
As you are aware; I am currently working with UIDAI. With mandate
of enrolling Pwd.
No, data on disability is not being collected.
UID only collects data on name, date of birth, father's name/
mother's name/ guardian/ City address. And Email/ mobile no. is
optional.
Hope this helps.
I will be coming to Bombay soon and hope to catch up with you and
explain this in details.
Mohammed Asif Iqbal
-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amar
Jain
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 1:35 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] UID number and inclusion of Disability?
Dear All,
We are aware that UIDAI will include disability in their database. I
saw the form on eaadhaar.com as the form on UIDAI website was
unreadable by Jaws, but it does not ask for disability related
information.
So would like to know if there is anybody who has got UID which
includes their disability detail, and procedure which is to be
followed?
As per help desk soon UID will be allotted in Mumbai.
Regards
Amar Jain.
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