What is your view on the following arrangement: "There should be no clause regarding the academic qualification of the scribe except a minimum level of education. As each candidate is required to be assigned a separate invigilator and a separate room, it is the responsibility of the invigilator to ensure a fair conduct of the examination. As far as possible, students should be provided writers from the same stream e.g. students of humanities should preferably be provided with scribes of humanities background and those of science and commerce and different languages with scribes of respective backgrounds.
All students may arrange for their own writers, scribes. In case they are unable to do so, the superintendent of the examination centre would provide a writer. The candidate must, however, request for a writer at least 24 hours prior to the commencement of the examination. A writers' bank must be created for the purpose for a ready availability of writers whenever required. The candidate must be given an opportunity to satisfy himself/ herself about the writer's ability to take dictation from the candidate. There should be, at least, a minimum comfort level between the candidate and the writer and the invigilator." Note that this clause poses no limits on age, percentage marks and stream of study. In fact it recommends a minimum level of education and writers from the same stream as the student. -----Original Message----- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rohiet A. Patil Sent: 12 August 2011 00:44 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Posting the UGC representation regarding scribe for further discussion. Hi! I also agree with amit's and Prakash's view. I fail to understand what should be the problem in taking the scribe from the same streem? Further, I don't see any logic regarding the clause of age limit. Thanks and regards, Rohiet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amit Bhatt" <misterbh...@gmail.com> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Posting the UGC representation regarding scribe for further discussion. Dear Akhilesh, Please do not take it otherwise but factually the proposed clause of age of the Scribe is a superfluous. See, today there is no age criteria set for those who want to pursue their Education. People are even doing their Masters and Graduation in the age of 35, 40 and so on. In this scenario how can we put the age criteria for someone? Secondly, we are the real and original Examinee, not our Scribe. So we can be restricted with the age norms, but not the person who is writing for us. Let's not try to propose or fraim out such rules which are tend to be challenged later by someone. Also, the question raised by Mr. Prakash has a valid point. This is why I have already shown my disagreement with the point of allowing Writers of the same stream in case the Examinee is from Music or Sanskrit only. Every Course or Subject has one or the other technical term to write on the Examinations and Computer Science, Mathematics and Electronic cannot be ignored here. Even though the subjective examination has some terms and terminology almost for every course or stream. Therefore, the Scribe can be obtained from whatever stream for any Exam. Since every subject or study has the specific terminology as I've mentioned above, remember, putting two different conditions in accordance with the Subject Stream for one Exam can be challenged on the strong grounds of impartiality in the future. Hope you people would analyze your draft (proposal) from every aspect for it's evenhandedness before presenting to the concern officials. Thank you for refining some words in your letter. Regards, Amit Bhatt On 8/11/11, akhilesh <akhil.akhi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello to all, > I posted the below draft under the different subject line initiated by > mr. Amit. I thought that it needs its unique subject line so I'm > posting here the revised draft on the bases of the suggestions given > by Rajesh sir, Amit ji, and MR. Harsh Negi. for further discussion and > suggestions. > ============ > Dated: 05.07.2011 > > To, > The chairman University Grant Commission, Bahadur shah zafar marg > Delhi, Delhi - 110002 > > Sub: Regarding the Problem of Scribe of Visually-challenged aspirants > In UGC Net > Exams. > > Sir, > With great sorrow and regret, we, the persons belonging to the > visually-challenged community would like to draw your attention on the > following points: > > 1. That the most of the times we are being provided the > incompetent/ineligible/careless scribe during the UGC NET examination, > and this very fact deprives us to solve even half of the question > paper, regardless of the fact that one has worked hard and knows all > the answers well. > 2. For your kind consideration, Carelessness and misfeasance committed > by the authorities appointed by UGC are being enumerated below, the > outcome of which can easily be assessed: > a. Hindi Medium candidates are being provided the English Medium > scribe, and on the other hand, English medium candidates Hindi medium > scribe; b. In most of the cases, Sanskrit medium students have failed > even to solve the single question as the scribe provided by the > concern examination centre was not able to read and write Sanskrit; c. > There Are large amount of cases, when the visually-challenged > candidates are forced to engage the clerical staff, and even in some > cases D grade employees, thereby destroying our each and every > possibilities of passing the NET exam; d. for Your consideration: > i. Clerical staff don't write our exam seriously, they keep themselves > busy in other official works; ii. A large amount of > visually-challenged candidates are English medium, and the capability > and ability to read and write English of clerical and D grade > employees would be known to you keeping in view the standard of NET > exam. > 3. Therefore, with great respect we propose that in any case, and > under any circumstances, the visually challenged candidates are not > willing to engage the scribe provided by the concern authorities, > under the currently enforced UGC rules and guidelines regarding the > scribe for the NET exam. > 4. We also propose that new guidelines regarding the scribe must be > issued as soon as possible so as to they could be come in effect prior > to the next UGC net exam which is about to be held likely in the month > of December 2011. > 5. Whereas, we propose that we are not willing to engage the scribe > provided by the concern authorities under the currently enforced UGC > rules and guidelines, we propose the following safeguards that may be > taken into consideration while allowing the candidate to engage his or > her own scribe in this connection: > a. The scribe should not be ELIGIBLE to appear for the NET exam and > should not have been so eligible for last three years,: Subject to the > conditions: > i. That The scribe must not be more than twenty-five years of age; ii. > That if the scribe is pursuing any undergraduate course, the scribe > must not be pursuing The similar course for which the candidate is > appearing. provided that, The candidates those who are appearing for > the Sanskrit and Music must essentially be allowed to engage the > scribe of the similar course, as no other person can write and read > Sanskrit well, keeping in view the standard of the UGC NET exam except > the person who is pursuing graduation in Sanskrit, and writing the > theory of music involves notes writing with special signs, which can > not be completed except by the person who knows it well. > b. At the examination hall a scribe must produce the following documents: > i. Original copy and photocopy of the Student I.D. card; > ii. Original copy and photocopy of the mark sheet of the > last exam passed; > iii. The mark sheet must clearly state the name of the examination and > the course as stated in student I.D. card; (I.E. both must be > co-related); iv. The original copy and photocopy of the age > certificate. > c. A person pursuing masters degree may also be allowed as a scribe, > subject to the condition that the scribe is not pursuing the similar > course for which the candidate is appearing for the UGC net exam. > 6. University wise list of the visually-challenged students and > candidates are attached with this application with their complete > names and their signatures and LTIs as the case may be. > > Kindly take the affirmative, concrete and quick action in this regard, > so that we can make right use of our studies and hard work, and could > play a vital role in the progress and prosperity of our > society by making our future better and bright. > > Thanking in anticipation, > Yours faithfully, > > All the visually-challenged students and candidates agreeing and > supporting the aforesaid points in its entirety. > > Copy to: > 1. Chief Commissioner For persons with disabilities; 2. secretary to > the ministry of Human resource development; 3. 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