does voice over come with iphone or ipad? or one has to download and install it separately.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kiran Kaja" <kirankaj...@gmail.com>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3


Thanks to Vasu for bringing this thread to my attention. There is a Hindi
TTS on iOS. I do not think you can change the entire interface of the iPhone or iPad to Hindi. But if there is web content in Hindi like bbc.co.uk/Hindi,
if you have enabled it, the iPhone switches to Hindi TTS for reading the
text. Hindi is one of the options in Settings > General > Accessibility >
VoiceOver > Language Rotor. And the TTS quality is very good in my opinion.

I am probably chipping in too late in this discussion but for blind users
requiring screen reader support, Talkback really falls way behind VoiceOver.
I did a couple of blog posts about my experience with Talkback and Android
JellyBean here
http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/random-thoughts-on-android-jelly
bean-and-google-nexus-7-accessibility/ and
http://kirankaja12.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/android-jellybean-accessibility-
continued-books-music-movies-and-youtube/.

And the Android JellyBean version hasn't hit the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet. if
as a screen reader user, you still want to buy an Android handset, you may
be better off buying one of the Google branded devices such as the Galaxy
Nexus. This is because they are stock Android and do not have any additional
skins/customised interfaces which usually do not work with Talkback. I
believe there are also ways to install unofficial Android firmware on
devices like Galaxy S3 but do it at your own risk.

One other reason for selecting Android is the price. There are a lot of
cheaper Android devices than either the iPhone and Galaxy S3. On the other
hand if you are a partially sighted user, you may appreciate the large 4.8
inch display of the Galaxy S3. And I heard that text enlargement/screen
magnification features will be improved in Android soon. I don't know if it
will be as good as the Zoom feature on iOS however.

Just my two cents worth...
-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent: 09 October 2012 10:29
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Hi,
I sent a twitter message to Kiran asking him for clarification.. Requested
him to post on the list, if he can...
Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:18 PM, Ketan Kothari <muktake...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Friends,

I am surprised too.  I think Kiran or someone who uses Iphone must
intervene and let us know.  I did find chinese, Korean and whatever
but not Hindi.  Of course, there is another possibility in that maybe
it may be downloadable.  So Kiran if you are seeing this, please do
clarify as I am seriously thinking to shift sooner than later.

Ketan

On 10/9/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote:
Dear Ketan -
I just checked on my iPhone 4S as well by calling Apple support here
in the US, sadly there is no Hindi support for VoiceOver...
-Vasu

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:33 AM, Ketan Kothari <muktake...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,

Is there any way of using Hindi TTS on Iphone?  I know that there is
a way of writing Hindi for sighted users on Iphone.  Please do throw
some light.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 10/8/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma <pr_ve...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ketan and others,
This may add to your disappointment.
Hindi TTS is not available for Android yet which means Hindi
reading or writing is not possible for the blind.
The business cards from NOKIA sent to android are generally not
supported and vice versa.

I am adding to the list so that you take the informed
decision.<smile>



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: 08 October 2012 11:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] My first two weeks with Samsung S3

Answer to your first question is Yes. Talk is not preloaded in my
phone.
Internet, I haven't used it.

On 10/8/12, ashook kumaaaaar <ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com> wrote:
r battary  and sound  quality  good?  can i use internet  easily in
it?  does talk back preloaded  on it?    ashok kumar.

On 10/8/12, Rahul Kelapure <rkelap...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ketan,

My phone has Icecreeme Sandwitch, however, I hear, you may
upgrade the same to JB if your phone allows to I.E. if the
specifications are good enough. Mine are good enough I hear.

All those apps you refered can be used easyly. I also have a
Tablet which has IC Android in that I use Talkback. In my phone,
I am yet to explore things, as screenreading software is not
inbuilt, I need to download first.

Will let know when I actually use them and problems faced if any.

Thanks and warm regards,

Rahul

On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari <muktake...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Rahul,

Actually, I am looking for either Iphone (prohibitively
expensive) or Android 4.1 Jelly bean phone.  Does your Carbon
have talkback or spiel?  Are you able to use apps?  FB, Twitter
etc?  Do share so that I can make my decision.

With regards,

Ketan

On 10/8/12, ashook kumaaaaar <ashokkumaaa...@gmail.com> wrote:
hello friends is there any person  who is using  carbonn a18?
If yes then  pls share your  comments. Because  i m looking for
this
thanks.
ashok kumar.

On 10/8/12, Ketan Kothari <muktake...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Accessindians,

Interesting discussion, but the more I read the more depressed
I get as I love to use my phone beyond mere phone.  Since
Android and Iphone have no keyboard, I am actually feeling very
insecure.
Are there any Android phones at the higher end with keyboard?

Is there any blind/low vision friend who is using Iphone?  I
think the learning curve in Iphone and Android devices is very
steep.

Do comment please and try and lift this veil of depression.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 10/3/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma <pr_ve...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I recently bought Samsung galaxy S3 android phone. You will
know that along with iPhone it is touted as the best smart
phone and the internet is full of comparisons.
I chose to buy this instead of iPhone 5 because first in
India iPhone
5
will
arrive only in November or December and secondly the new Maps
application is not likely to work in India until further few
months on the iPhone.
In addition to this I wanted to test book reading apps on
android as a part of my professional work.

With Talkback, eyes free keyboard and few other apps this
phone has become accessible. Despite no physical keys it is
possible to do everything on the phone although several
things take much more time as compared to a phone with full
keypad. The voice recognition feature is much improved and I
am eagerly waiting for its Jelly bean update after which it
will be possible to do more with voice. Even now I am able to
search contacts and send sms with the voice recognition  app.

This phone is a delight for a person with low vision. The
fantastic big screen with the option of increasing the font
size to large or huge makes the screen readable. The digital
magnifying apps are also wonderful.
They
convert this device into a good reading tool giving serious
competition to the digital magnifiers which alone sell for 20
K and beyond. I won't recommend this to a totally blind person
yet.
It will be an unnecessary extra expenditure on a big screen.


Time permitting I will write more on this.

Prashant



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