Congrats as a girl has also spoken up...
-----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Siddhi Desai Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:32 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] PARAVOOR:Mass wedding held for visually challenged Hi Guys, I have been following this discussion and have also read the discussion related to this subject since i am the member of the list. I really appreciate everyone's opinion and admire facts and observations put by our list member so clearly, systematically and convincingly. on the basis of this discussion, i could infer that marrying to sighted or non-sighted person is very subjective. every view and action leading to it will have it's own risks,challenges and problems. Off course the time, we have vision impairment we start bravely fighting and overcoming different hurdles in our life from education to employment, from personal family problems to social problems. But we all fight boldly to all sorts of problems. we share and discuss various difficulties and solutions on this list. similarly, in this case "whom to marry" is very inconclusive due to their merits and demerits so after this discussion, i feel those who have favouring which ever view and face the challenges in that particular marriage type should discuss their problems and solutions to them. For e.g., from Rajesh sir's writings i could sense that he has a sighted life partner and he must have face difficulty and overcome through it so he can share how he dealt with those which will help them who will be marrying to sighted person or will help to person who is facing problems with his/her sighted life partner right now or someonemay come up with better solutions and similarly a person who has married to non-sighted person can share their problem and solutions to it which will benefit to those who want and have taken up that type of marriage as an option. I know, everyone's problem will have different nature but somewhere someone will get a clew or hint to overcome his/her marriage problems. Regarding NGOs, rather than criticizing, we can guide NGOs to publicize the news in such a way where it will not send some wrong messages or organize the events in such way which will prevent from setting unwanted trend. For e.g., NGOs can approach organization where sighted person's mass marriages take place and arrange event along with them which will create awareness among other people and the news will not flash as "mass marriages of blind couples". Unfortunately, how far this will solve the problem of getting into main stream according to our some list member is skeptical as again NGO can't decide a person will marry to whom they can just offer profiles of some prospective candidates and i feel there is no certainty regarding getting into main stream by marrying to sighted person as there are many other factors like sighted person's nature, non-sighted person's nature as well as family background etc also matter so this is a call of individual interest. But guiding NGOs in proper way to avoid sending wrong signals in society, at the same time creating healthy mind set of our society is only longterm and difficult solution lays with us. in this way, we can reduce the intensity of the problem. Here, if i have unknowingly hurt someone's sentiment then i apologize for that. But i feel discussing views on topics like "education in integrated or blind schools" or "marrying to sighted or blind person" will have strong opposing views which will make our discussion pointless and will end up "stop traffic" mark instead, our discussion will serve our purpose if we discuss the problems and solutions in detail who ever favor and experienced his/her own view. Regards Siddhi On 2/27/13, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote: > too crude a remark.. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Blacky > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 3:41 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] PARAVOOR:Mass wedding held for visually challenged > > If you want a wife come driver, go for sighted couple. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of zoher kheriwala > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:08 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] PARAVOOR:Mass wedding held for visually challenged > > Friends, > > We cannot judge that all blind with sited, sited with sited or blind with > blind are happy couples. Each of the types has unique sets of problems. As > blind with blind might face some day to day practical problems, on the > other > > hand the sited with blind might face the problem of over shadowing the > blind > > personality with sited person. So the challenges are every ware and have to > be dealt with the skills and experience. > > On the need of to fulfill our wishes by our sited counterpart we should > have > > the sited partner is not according to me is the right opinion. Are we > searching for a life partner or a slave? Which will fulfill our wish? [The > target which was not completed by us to be completed by our partner]. > > Getting married is the process of providing mantel, emotional, > psychological > > physical confer to each other. If this process is just one sided the > institution of marriage cannot stand irrespective of the type of couple you > are. > > > > To make any decision, you are the best judge of your own. No societal norm > or social practices can bring you the right decision. If a blind divorces > blind then the society will allege that that how 2 disables can live > together, if divorce happens between blind and sited it may be called that > how one can adjust with blind or if sited divorces sited, it will be > considered as normal. So never judge your decision on others comments. > Don't > > you remember the story of donkey and and man? > > All the openions mentioned above are my personal views. > > zoher kheriwala taheri menswear mumbai. skype id zoher.kheriwala > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] PARAVOOR:Mass wedding held for visually challenged > > >> Differences are warmly welcome. >> But How one can categorically claim that disabled partners face more >> difficulties than blind/sighted partners? >> I don't think so. in this case, we should rely on the experiences of >> blind partners. >> And this utteration varies widely. it depends on the factor that how >> tough and resolute you are , and living life lively. >> Though I'm still unmarried and unlikely to get married too soon.. >> but many of my married blind friends do emphases on mutual mental >> satisfaction as more desired satisfaction than merely physical >> comforts. >> And I share the same feeling to a significant extent. >> >> I believe in the preservation of heterogenous identity. >> and why can't we celebrate our unique and distinct behavioural >> expression. why we seek affairmation from so called mainstream agents? >> If tribal people eat in their own distinct way without spoon, if >> north-east Indians people have their own unique culture, then why >> can't we cherish their distinct mores? >> If my way of hugging is different from sighted people so what? should >> I adhere myself to their normes? >> na na na. >> My comfort is more comfortable than unwilling surrender to certain >> normes. >> >> And Himanshu sir, I think let the mainstream people remain in their >> own made standards. We'll find our way one day.. >> but no imposition, and bashing please?... >> On 2/26/13, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote: >>> Firstly, I am not comforted by the thought that mainstream is a myth. >>> Secondly, marrying a disabled or not, is surely a personal choice but >>> disabled couples surely face much more hurdles and as a rule, are not >>> well-included in the mainstream of the society. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf >>> Of avinash shahi >>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 7:10 PM >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: Re: [AI] PARAVOOR:Mass wedding held for visually challenged >>> >>> I'm glad to read conflicting claims with regard to 'Mass Marriage >>> Melange'. >>> >>> and thought to join in this vibrant discussion and deliberation. >>> >>> Facilitating mass marriages of visually challenged has become an >>> entrepreneurial come social-service self-satisfying practice these >>> days. >>> in fact in many parts of the country, specially in mega metros and >>> mini metros, scores of marriages are arranged, and solemnized. >>> This growing phenomena raises many questions. >>> 1. Is getting married to a non-disabled really take you in the domain >>> of 'mainstream'? >>> When Actor seeks actress for marriage, player looks player for >>> marriage, poet desires poetess for marriage, then why can't blind man >>> marry to a blind woman? >>> >>> Now question begs attention, who defines mainstream? >>> and is marrying to a non-disabled is enough to be called in the >>> mainstream? >>> I don't think so. >>> Choice of marriage is purely subjective. and if so called mainstream >>> occupants are morally bbound to accomodate marginalized, hence >>> marginalised have an ethical duty towards their fellow beings >>> irrespective of jender. >>> Marriage is not a constitutional right which one can expect from so >>> called mainstream people to accomodate the rest from the periphery. >>> Marriage entails: mutual respect, equal concerns, and and love along >>> with sacrifice. >>> And mainstream is a myth, which celebrates untouchability, cheers >>> masculinity, and despises disability. >>> >>> Now will leave with two more questions Which need further >>> contemplation, but I'm not in a position to take any view; hope many >>> people here will put some light on these questions. >>> 1. Why NGOs Which are traditionally supposed to facilitate educational >>> and employable empowerment of visually challenged has picked up new >>> attractive dimention in their spheres to organize marriage of >>> visually challenged? >>> 2. And why adult blind people flock in huge numbers to seek spouse via >>> these NGOs? >>> >>> On 2/25/13, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote: >>>> I am compelled to congratulate Himanshu for his scientific approach.. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Himanshu Sahu >>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 2:20 PM >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] PARAVOOR:Mass wedding held for visually challenged >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> Let me be very specific with the topic, >>>> >>>> 1. It does not make any difference to me that which organization >>>> organized the mass wedding or what they have done earlier in this >>>> respect. This may be of liking to those who are involved in it or >>>> benefitted through it and publicizing it. Further I do not deny the >>>> necessity of such mass marriages and appreciate the initiative. But >>>> still my simple question remains unanswered that "how it brings VIs >>>> into mainstream"? >>>> 2. Well, knowing me personally is not going to solve your >>>> confusion, >>>> but for the sake of correcting your hypothesis I am compelled to >>>> inform you that I lost eyesight 10 years back and have been the member >>>> of list for last 4 years. And I too know many of VI couples friends. >>>> But here as well, as earlier, I am not able to understand that being >>>> new or old member of list, and, knowing VI couples or not, is how come >>>> related with the issue of bringing VIs into mainstream? >>>> 3. In answer to your next question, I would only say that marrying >>>> within community or outside community and whether blind couple are >>>> happy or not, is a broad topic and I am not interested to deviate from >>>> the actual topic that is "how it brings VIs into mainstream"? >>>> >>>> Friend, in the zeal of getting your project acclaimed aren't you >>>> trying to establish a plain charitable mass marriage as inclusion of >>>> VIs into mainstream? Definitely mass marriage is a part of >>>> rehabilitation but not the inclusion into mainstream. I would have >>>> rather appreciated it if all VIs were married with sighted >>>> counterparts and then one would have called it as an attempt to >>>> bringing VIs into mainstream. Still the sighted world is well-known >>>> and well-established "mainstream" and all of hue and cry made by VI >>>> community has more or less similar theme to get incorporated into this >>>> mainstream as we are kept secluded from it. >>>> >>>> For the better clarification of the term "mainstream", please refer to >>>> the below mentioned some of the dictionary meanings of the term: >>>> "To incorporate into the prevailing group" >>>> "Representing the prevalent attitudes and values of a society or >>>> groups" >>>> And, "normal", "typical", "conventional" etc. >>>> >>>> So, it demonstrates that what we are talking about is not an attempt >>>> of incorporation into mainstream, and if one wishes to deny it have to >>>> innovate or forcefully create a new definition of incorporation into >>>> mainstream! And I extend my best wishes to those who want to do this >>>> novel Endeavour. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/24/13, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> By Express News Service - PARAVOOR >>>>> 24th February 2013 09:22 AM >>>>> Photos >>>>> The mass wedding of visually challenged couples, held by the Lioness >>>>> Board, the women's wing of the Lion's Club of District 318 C, at >>>>> Paravoor, on Saturday. As part of bringing physically handicapped >>>>> people into the mainstream, Lioness Board, the women's wing of the >>>>> Lion's Club, of District 318 C, held a mass wedding that saw 18 >>>>> visually challenged couples taking marital vows at Paravoor on >>>>> Saturday. >>>>> http://newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/article1476830.ece >>>>> 'Porutham 2013', held at Paravoor Vyapara Bhavan, was inaugurated by >>>>> Lions Club district governor Abraham Panjikkaran. Union Minister for >>>>> Food and Civil Supplies K V Thomas was the chief guest at the >>>>> function. >>>>> >>>>> While delivering the keynote address, Thomas said that the mass >>>>> wedding would be a model for the nation, and the event was an occasion >>>>> to learn how a society could be responsible. >>>>> >>>>> The couples were presented with 2.5 sovereigns of gold ornaments each >>>>> and `15,000 in cash. >>>>> >>>>> The money was distributed by municipal chairperson Valsala >>>>> Prasannakumar and actor Mythili. Aluva Rural SP Satish Bino >>>>> distributed financial aid for enabling self-employment for the >>>>> visually challenged couples. >>>>> >>>>> From 102 clubs under District 318 C, dresses and household utensils, >>>>> including pressure cookers, were given as gifts to the newly-weds. >>>>> Club president Indira Bai Prasad, secretary Susheela Varghese, Prof >>>>> Monamma Kokkad, chief co-ordinator A Rajan, Human Rights Commission >>>>> chairman Justice Benjamin Koshy offered felicitations. >>>>> >>>>> Out of the 205 applicants, 18 couples were selected. The club would >>>>> conduct a mass wedding for 50 couples in 2014, said Indira Bai Prasad. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Avinash Shahi >>>>> MPhil Research Scholar >>>>> Centre for the Study of Law and Governance >>>>> Jawaharlal Nehru University >>>>> New Delhi India >>>>> >>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>> accessibility >>>>> of >>>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>> > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please >>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thanks and regards >>>> Himanshu Sahu >>>> Reach: 09051055000 >>>> Skype: himanshu.cute4u >>>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>> of >>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>> > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, smses or makes >>>> calls >>>> asking for personal information like your bank account details, >>>> passwords, >>>> etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. 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