Very much true but unfortunately not really suited to Indian mentality!
Indian mentality here represents the some total of whole Indian view points... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kartik Sawhney" <sawhney.kar...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


Hey Ishita,

Just because you think a particular job profile might be inaccessible
or rather hard for a blind person does not imply that it will indeed
be the case. Last month, I happened to attend a STEM access conference
in Washington. Can you think of a blind civil engineer? Or, how about
a blind chemist? Or even better, how about a blind surgeon? Sounds
impossible, right. But, I met some people who are actually involved in
these vocations, and are well-known in their field. They use some
rather clever adaptations. The point that I'm trying to drive home is
that with the evolution of technology, a lot is possible. You just
need to explore alternate ways of doing things. It might be a little
challenging first, but then, everything smoothens out. While I agree
with Rajesh Sir that there's no point being overly optimistic,
accepting something as impossible and being very pessimistic is also
bad.

I'm not being philosophical or optimistic here, but am rather quoting
from experience and example. Also, quoting a line from your E-mail:
"we all know what we can do and what we can't"
Well, I don't really think so. There's much more than we think we can
do. Sky is the limit, after all! We just need to come up with
alternate ways and approaches.

Best,
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On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor <ishitakapoor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear preety madam,
We are enough motivated I guess.
We all have accepted blindness.
We all know what we can do and what we can't.
We all know what is situation and why.
But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then
optimistic talks
I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work
in banks for visually impaired.
Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc.
But this is not ideal job for us.
There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can't
rely on  somebody will come and will read out form for us.
We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do
everything mindset.
I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing.
And I am learning from the person like you.
But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good
at everything won't work in real world.


On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com <nupur.j...@wipro.com> wrote:
Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our
disability.
If we are blind, so what?
Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in
life.



-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM
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concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Ishita,

Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired
is
real bad! We all are  ourselves facing so many difficulties all the
time.
Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very
upset?
I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept  what we are
getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be
as
they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the
situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to
get
better very very slowly!

If we remain depressed and  angry and disheartened,  where will we find
the
courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation?
That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together
we
can do something to make things better
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director



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-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of ishita kapoor
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature.
We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly
thanks to reservation.
Though we are enough capable.
There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors.
But such people can be counted by the tip of finger.
Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks.
Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind.
If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will
have to make his system  up to the expectation for the blind
And which is not always easy or possible.
Only awareness can improve our circumstances


On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga <preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in> wrote:
I know Avinash,  it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something
for
them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the
female
blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity
of
going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I
can't even begin to write about their state! It has  torne me apart!
The
female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are
blind?

Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from
wherever
I
can with the limited or should I say no  resources!
Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something
somewhere
will turn up and conditions will begin to improve!
Preeti

Preeti Monga
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-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:03 PM
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concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

You are right sir.
But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to
35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and
invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal
has rightly termed: "forgotten youth with disabilities".
On 7/3/14, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality
education
and
high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..!

-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed
and dwelled upon in detail.
So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious
consideration for me at least.

As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to
the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out
 of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total
 number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on
 January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December)

(http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs-
but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/).
Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on
India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed
with publick sector undertakings,  the biggest share has gone to
persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from
unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are
identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise
where are blind people stand today.

Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on
private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal
dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have
accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of
a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English
accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and
Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We
blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds. And
Scheduled caste, scheduled tribes OBCs, and women representing
herinabove mentioned categories among blind people are hardly found in
private sector jobs. And majority of those who find jobs in NGOs
working for/of blind,  call-centres and manufacturing units, are
least-paid and over-worked. So where we stand in private sector in
general, I think nowhere. But one thing consoles me in India we are
much better than America, UK and Australia. There unemployment rate of
disabled is very high, and provision of monthly few hundred
dollars/Great Britain Pound (GBP) without giving job is still a norm.
But here in India, we're expected to work if we want to be paid.
That's superb because what we aspire as human beings of course
DIGNITY. Lastly, no quality study exists which has analysed the blind
people's experiences at the workplace. Hope many of access Indians
along with me would enter in to disability studies in future and
contribute greatly to the literature which would guide the Indian
State...

 On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga <preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in> wrote:
Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like
Microsoft and LPTI  and other companies with salaries going into
lacs!
So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are
blind,
but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and
achieve
great hights!
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director



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-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Sameer
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
individuals
-
Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


Dear Ishita,

I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being
completely

blind & will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of
other
partially & completely blind people working with the Reliance group
in
Mumbai.

Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private
sector,
the

salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability &
qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in
the
private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So,
it
is
not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's
blind
employees adequately.

I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ
blind
individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the
blind
individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their
sighted

counterparts.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India


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