Besides when we view things from our comfort zones they do look difficult
and impossible.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Vikas Kapoor
Sent: 04 July 2014 23:00
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Very much true but unfortunately not really suited to Indian mentality!
Indian mentality here represents the some total of whole Indian view 
points...
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From: "Kartik Sawhney" <sawhney.kar...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


> Hey Ishita,
>
> Just because you think a particular job profile might be inaccessible
> or rather hard for a blind person does not imply that it will indeed
> be the case. Last month, I happened to attend a STEM access conference
> in Washington. Can you think of a blind civil engineer? Or, how about
> a blind chemist? Or even better, how about a blind surgeon? Sounds
> impossible, right. But, I met some people who are actually involved in
> these vocations, and are well-known in their field. They use some
> rather clever adaptations. The point that I'm trying to drive home is
> that with the evolution of technology, a lot is possible. You just
> need to explore alternate ways of doing things. It might be a little
> challenging first, but then, everything smoothens out. While I agree
> with Rajesh Sir that there's no point being overly optimistic,
> accepting something as impossible and being very pessimistic is also
> bad.
>
> I'm not being philosophical or optimistic here, but am rather quoting
> from experience and example. Also, quoting a line from your E-mail:
> "we all know what we can do and what we can't"
> Well, I don't really think so. There's much more than we think we can
> do. Sky is the limit, after all! We just need to come up with
> alternate ways and approaches.
>
> Best,
> -- 
> -Kartik Sawhney,
> Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India)
> E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu
> Skype: kartik.sawhney22
>
> On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor <ishitakapoor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear preety madam,
>> We are enough motivated I guess.
>> We all have accepted blindness.
>> We all know what we can do and what we can't.
>> We all know what is situation and why.
>> But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then
>> optimistic talks
>> I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work
>> in banks for visually impaired.
>> Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc.
>> But this is not ideal job for us.
>> There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can't
>> rely on  somebody will come and will read out form for us.
>> We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do
>> everything mindset.
>> I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing.
>> And I am learning from the person like you.
>> But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good
>> at everything won't work in real world.
>>
>>
>> On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com <nupur.j...@wipro.com> wrote:
>>> Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our
>>> disability.
>>> If we are blind, so what?
>>> Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in
>>> life.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Preeti Monga
>>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM
>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.'
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
>>> individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>>
>>> Dear Ishita,
>>>
>>> Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired
>>> is
>>> real bad! We all are  ourselves facing so many difficulties all the
>>> time.
>>> Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very
>>> upset?
>>> I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept  what we are
>>> getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things
be
>>> as
>>> they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the
>>> situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to
>>> get
>>> better very very slowly!
>>>
>>> If we remain depressed and  angry and disheartened,  where will we find
>>> the
>>> courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation?
>>> That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together
>>> we
>>> can do something to make things better
>>> Preeti
>>>
>>> Preeti Monga
>>> Director
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>>> Landline: 011 22781446
>>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>>> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
>>> Corporate
>>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>>
>>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of ishita kapoor
>>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
>>> individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>>
>>> I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature.
>>> We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly
>>> thanks to reservation.
>>> Though we are enough capable.
>>> There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors.
>>> But such people can be counted by the tip of finger.
>>> Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks.
>>> Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the
blind.
>>> If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will
>>> have to make his system  up to the expectation for the blind
>>> And which is not always easy or possible.
>>> Only awareness can improve our circumstances
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga <preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in> wrote:
>>>> I know Avinash,  it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something
>>>> for
>>>> them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the
>>>> female
>>>> blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the
opportunity
>>>> of
>>>> going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana,
I
>>>> can't even begin to write about their state! It has  torne me apart!
>>>> The
>>>> female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are
>>>> blind?
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from
>>>> wherever
>>>> I
>>>> can with the limited or should I say no  resources!
>>>> Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something
>>>> somewhere
>>>> will turn up and conditions will begin to improve!
>>>> Preeti
>>>>
>>>> Preeti Monga
>>>> Director
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>>>> Landline: 011 22781446
>>>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>>>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>>>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting.
Training
>>>> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
>>>> Corporate
>>>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including
demystifying
>>>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>>>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>>>
>>>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>>>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of avinash shahi
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:03 PM
>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning
>>>> the disabled.
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
>>>> individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
>>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>>>
>>>> You are right sir.
>>>> But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to
>>>> 35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and
>>>> invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal
>>>> has rightly termed: "forgotten youth with disabilities".
>>>> On 7/3/14, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote:
>>>>> Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality
>>>>> education
>>>> and
>>>>> high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..!
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of avinash shahi
>>>>> Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45
>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerning
>>>>> the disabled.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
>>>>> individuals - Re: my quriyocity are
>>>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed
>>>>> and dwelled upon in detail.
>>>>> So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious
>>>>> consideration for me at least.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to
>>>>> the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out
>>>>>  of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total
>>>>>  number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014
on
>>>>>  January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December)
>>>>>
>>>>
(http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs-
>>>>> but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/).
>>>>> Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on
>>>>> India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people
employed
>>>>> with publick sector undertakings,  the biggest share has gone to
>>>>> persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from
>>>>> unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are
>>>>> identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise
>>>>> where are blind people stand today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on
>>>>> private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal
>>>>> dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have
>>>>> accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of
>>>>> a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English
>>>>> accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS
and
>>>>> Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We
>>>>> blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds. And
>>>>> Scheduled caste, scheduled tribes OBCs, and women representing
>>>>> herinabove mentioned categories among blind people are hardly found
in
>>>>> private sector jobs. And majority of those who find jobs in NGOs
>>>>> working for/of blind,  call-centres and manufacturing units, are
>>>>> least-paid and over-worked. So where we stand in private sector in
>>>>> general, I think nowhere. But one thing consoles me in India we are
>>>>> much better than America, UK and Australia. There unemployment rate
of
>>>>> disabled is very high, and provision of monthly few hundred
>>>>> dollars/Great Britain Pound (GBP) without giving job is still a norm.
>>>>> But here in India, we're expected to work if we want to be paid.
>>>>> That's superb because what we aspire as human beings of course
>>>>> DIGNITY. Lastly, no quality study exists which has analysed the blind
>>>>> people's experiences at the workplace. Hope many of access Indians
>>>>> along with me would enter in to disability studies in future and
>>>>> contribute greatly to the literature which would guide the Indian
>>>>> State...
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga <preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in> wrote:
>>>>>> Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like
>>>>>> Microsoft and LPTI  and other companies with salaries going into
>>>>>> lacs!
>>>>>> So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we
are
>>>>>> blind,
>>>>>> but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and
>>>>>> achieve
>>>>>> great hights!
>>>>>> Preeti
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Preeti Monga
>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>>>>>> Landline: 011 22781446
>>>>>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>>>>>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>>>>>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting.
>>>>>> Training
>>>>>> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
>>>>> Corporate
>>>>>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including
>>>>>> demystifying
>>>>>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>>>>>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>>>>>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Sameer
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM
>>>>>> To: Access India
>>>>>> Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind
>>>>>> individuals
>>>>> -
>>>>>> Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Ishita,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being
>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>
>>>>>> blind & will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> partially & completely blind people working with the Reliance group
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Mumbai.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private
>>>>>> sector,
>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability
&
>>>>>> qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So,
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's
>>>>>> blind
>>>>>> employees adequately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ
>>>>>> blind
>>>>>> individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the
>>>>> blind
>>>>>> individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their
>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>>
>>>>>> counterparts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Mr. Sameer Latey,
>>>>>> Mumbai, India
>>>>>>
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