Do CCPD have agreed on your point?

On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove
>
> the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire
> capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will
> demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse,
>
> will obtain less than 30 and get failled.
>
> thanks and sorry.
> thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hozefa Tambawala
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem
>
> Dear Bhawani,
>
> We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is
> necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to
> except it.
>
> For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any
> features / measures which are vital to the website because they are
> inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify
> the website administrators about it and suggest them for other
> alternatives.
>
> I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen.
> The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If
> you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views
> regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your
> point.
>
> Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed
> on the site, take the example of "Inclusive planet" website.
>
> On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are
>> saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus
>> upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of
>> values
>>
>> are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry
>> date,
>> cvv, date of birth, pin, 3d secure password, now what is the roll of
>> captcha
>>
>> their. my second question did not answer, was about incometax website.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sheik Mohammedali" <shahid.se...@gmail.com>
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>> issuesconcerning
>> thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem
>>
>>
>>> Here onething.  if your personal/financial credentials are stolen, at
>>> least, an individual can never take access to these stuffs immediately.
>>> and they are stolen robotically and used on the merchant sites in the
>>> same
>>>
>>> manner.  O no no indeed,  I did not suggest webvisum but I had put my
>>> views comparatively.  there should be a mechanism which can do the job
>>> exclusively.  as suggested by kartik, there should be some analytical
>>> questions to be answered.  it is very unfortunate that nobody is taking
>>> part in this critical discussion.  let us hear from other folks what do
>>> they have to say on this.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "bhawani shankar verma" <bsvermad...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>> issuesconcerning
>>>
>>> thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem
>>>
>>>
>>>> suppose I entered all my details of credit card like card number,
>>>> expiry
>>>>
>>>> date and 3d secure password, what this captcha will do their.
>>>> I enter my pan number, date of birth, password correctly, what this
>>>> captcha is doing their on the website incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in
>>>> and many other websites. I am completely blind and i can't see the
>>>> image
>>>>
>>>> and my screen reader can not recognise it. what is the solution. please
>>>> don't suggest webvisum. technically you may be right. but, practically
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>> am absolutely right. better is to go for easy solution not for
>>>> intelligent solution.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sheik Mohammedali" <shahid.se...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>>> issuesconcerning thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bhawani, if captcha is to be removed just forsake of accessibility,
>>>>> what is your selution for preventing spamming? Indeed I will standby
>>>>> you.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "bhawani shankar verma" <bsvermad...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>>>> issuesconcerning thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:26 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till
>>>>>> my winning. and my mission is to remove the captcha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Sheik Mohammedali
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:54 PM
>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>>>>> issuesconcerning thedisabled.
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the
>>>>>> inclusive
>>>>>> planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but
>>>>>> due to
>>>>>> spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical
>>>>>> captcha
>>>>>> had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all
>>>>>> challenging.
>>>>>> And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use
>>>>>> the OCR
>>>>>> functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of
>>>>>> characters .  and there had been another service which was human
>>>>>> operative
>>>>>> called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was
>>>>>> human
>>>>>> operative 21 Hrs service in a day.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Shek Mohammad ali,
>>>>>> Cisco systems
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jyotsna" <jyotsnadi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>> concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
>>>>>>> removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
>>>>>>> contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding
>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>> captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to
>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>> petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely
>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jyotsna
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj <sj.pallav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
>>>>>>>> here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
>>>>>>>> problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
>>>>>>>> department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
>>>>>>>> can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
>>>>>>>> capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add
>>>>>>>> ons
>>>>>>>> like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
>>>>>>>> suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
>>>>>>>> text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to
>>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>>> audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> list will come up with better idea than me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to
>>>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>>>> this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a
>>>>>>>>> hacking
>>>>>>>>> tool.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
>>>>>>>>> unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>> other.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Jyotsna" <jyotsnadi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>>>>> concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should
>>>>>>>>>> resolve
>>>>>>>>>> the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
>>>>>>>>>> earlier for the welfare of VI community.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Jyotsna
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj <sj.pallav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these
>>>>>>>>>>> days,
>>>>>>>>>>> its giving wrong capcha as well...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil <patil_ro...@dataone.in> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am also facing the same problem. Any thing rong with there
>>>>>>>>>>>> server?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jyotsna
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:58 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: accessindia
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [AI] Web visum problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha
>>>>>>>>>>>> through web
>>>>>>>>>>>> visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I
>>>>>>>>>>>> submit
>>>>>>>>>>>> second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30
>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>>>>> error:33. However I submitted the next captcha even after one
>>>>>>>>>>>> hour as
>>>>>>>>>>>> well as restart the system the same error message appears.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm web visum users whether they are are also encountering
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same trouble in solving multiple captcha on the same day
>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>> visum or this trouble is only with my system.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reply awaited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks inadvance,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jyotsna.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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"Life is like a piano.
White keys are happy moments
& Black keys are sad moments.
But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music."

"Focus on your abilities, not your disability."

Follow me on Facebook:
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Skype ID:
star.hoze

Warm Regards,

Hozefa...



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