hi, The explanation of Mr. BIKRAMADITYA is sufficient to understand. Further more: Mr. Aju, take my exact words: I have used the word 'like mike' not exactly mike. You took its mechanical sense. Anyway, instead of mouth and mike; now take it as mind and mouth. screen reader as a mind which determines what to say and the tongue/throat speakes that word/phrase what is assembled by the mind. In case of jaws with eloquence, now take that the eloquence has no tongue/throat which can produce Hindi phoneme. But the running jaws, which can be taken as a mind of a person (please do not take this word mechanically again!) is recognizing the Hindi text and sending the words/phrases to mouth. But the eloquence has no tong to pronounce it. The functionality of jaws either lekha or eloquence does not differ but the output is governed by the TTS. If you still wish to take my previous example, then understand that the no speech of eloquence to Hindi means there is no mike. In brief: 1. if jaws be considered as mouth and eloquence as mike; then in case of Hindi, understand that there is no mike. 2. If jaws be considered as mind and eloquence as a mouth; then in case of Hindi, understand there is no tongue/throat.
. On 9/24/14, BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA <bikram.greets...@gmail.com> wrote: > as far as the above explaination is concerned, it was meant to provide an > idea of whether it is the screen reader or the TTS that supports the > application. the question you raised is regarding the support for language, > not the application. in case of language, it is the tts which determines > the compatibility or support for a specific language. if you consider the > litarary sense of the example of mike in this regard, it will slightly > differ in the technical term. still it very much resembles the significance > of the example with that of the TTS. for instance, if the source code of > eloquence becomes available under the new general public license for all to > compile and/or modify the software just like various open source > application, we can make the eloquence to read Hindi or any other language > as well. I think the Vachaks developed by Him Prasad Gautam sir for several > Indian regional languages are the recompiled version of the E speak TTS > since it is also an open source application, and provides all sorts of > flexibilities to modify its features according to our requirements. hence, > to put it simple, you can consider the TTS as a mike, which has some > compatibility issues in rendering certain sound outputs. > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM, raaju <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello gautam sir, thanks a tonne for the chrisstal clear explanation >> regarding logic between screen reader and the tts. I was unaware. And >> what >> mad or silly question arise in my mind after reading this mail that what >> about lekha tts or any non English tts? i mean, if we think that tts is >> the >> mic, in the physical mic no matter which language do you speak, it will >> display your voice to speaker or your voice or whatever sentence you've >> spoken will be lowder. So that if we think tts is acts like a mic, why >> eloquence tts doesn't read hindi? If eloquence doesn't read hindi, we >> can't >> say that screen reader doesn't support hindi cause if you incounter that >> this text is written in hindi, just turn on lekha voice, it will begin >> reading hindi right from the track. And why only the lekha reads hindi? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Him Prasad Gautam >> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:16 AM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerningthe disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] how to read hindi in a pdf document? >> >> hi, >> Let it be clear. >> 1. Any TTS of any language in any engine does not read any texts but >> it only speaks. >> 2. It speaks only those texts which are send by the screen reader. >> 3. An TTS is like a mike not a mouth. >> 4. Hence a question like whether one TTS supports this or that >> application is meaningless. >> However, asking whether a TTS supports this or that screen reader is >> pertinent question. >> Similarly, a query whether one screen reader supports this or that >> application is also right. >> Conclusion. >> In principle; If jaws supports pdf and vocalizer supports jaws; it >> should speak the text. However, if the jaws is unable to read the >> Hindi text of pdf format; no chance of speaking by vocalizer. If a >> person does not speak and keeps silent, the loudspeaker becomes >> voiceless. Here the silence is due to by a man not by the speaker! >> >> >> On 9/23/14, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Is the character encoding system Unicode? If not, then unfortunately >> > you will not be able to read the PDF. If you are wondering why, search >> > the archives of AI for a detailed explanation given by Mr. Him Prasad >> > Gautam. >> > If the text is in the form of an image, then you need to perform OCR. >> > But neither the OCR addon for NVDA or FS Omnipage (as per my >> > knowledge) support Hindi. I am inquiring about Hindi support in OCR >> > addon for NVDA, because it should be possible, and will share what >> > answers I get. >> > Hope that helps. >> > >> > On 9/23/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel <mohibra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I am using jaws 14 with lekha for hindi. Is it possible to read hindi >> >> with the help of lekha in a pdf document? 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