On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:47:26 +0530 "li...@srinivasu.org"  wrote

>Totally agree. 







I have seen situation in some schools where students give out text books to 
scribes in advance for them to prepare. 







Whether it's computer based or using scribe, students should be well prepared. 
And in some cases, I have also seen lack of quality teaching in schools. 







I cannot disclose something here but I'm really proud of students like Kartik!!







Thanks much. 







Regards,



Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu



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> On 18-Mar-2015, at 15:52, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:



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> 



> O my god, this issue can bring to mind many problems that we have faced



> while appearing for our exams.



> 



> Though many of us would have faced many problems during our exams, but no



> one discussed that a scribe would be emotionally pressured to help as well.



> 



> Apart from scribes, some supervisors also want to help you. All of this



> indicates that people have low faith in the abilities of persons with



> disabilities and if you ask me, taking help this way during the exam is an



> insult to oneself.



> 



> I agree with George. We all know that many people try to seek help from



> scribe, and Such incidences lead to weird rules such as scribe should not



> have scored more than 50 percent marks, or the scribe should not be from the



> same field. These rules hurt other candidates, as someone from non-science



> or mathematics field is often not able to explain the content in a



> meaningful way. Once I had to appear for a masters level entrance exam, and



> the person who was assigned as my scribe was 12th pass and he could not



> speak in English,(I had to ask him to spell words) and he did not understand



> importance of diagrams, so he just read out questions without letting me



> know that there are diagrams associated with those questions. After 2 to 3



> questions, I realized that these questions are not making any sense unless



> there is a diagram. And then there are other problems related to Greek and



> other exotic symbols.



> 



> Scenario is way better in international exams, and we can learn from them. I



> have appeared for 3 international exams. In all of the international exams



> that I appeared, they monitored with the help of CCTV so that there is no



> help from the scribe. But they do not impose such conditions such as maximum



> marks and area of specialization. Once I enquired about the qualification of



> the scribe, the guy told me that you can get who so ever you want, I will



> ensure you don't cheat. In other tests the condition was that the scribe



> should not have appeared for and should not be planning to appear for the



> same test within one year. But that condition is to ensure that the scribe



> does not benefit by being a scribe.



> 



> So what is the answer for this problem? Unfortunately, everyone cannot



> appear for exams with the help of computer and many exams cannot be taken



> with the help of computer. Same is the case with Braille. Until we can solve



> that problem, better supervision is the answer. Apart from supervision,



> scribe and supervisor should be asked to sign an oath that they will not



> help the candidate and helping the candidate in this way would mean the



> candidate is incompetent. the candidate should also sign the same oath. If



> all of them sign the same oath, they would most likely not do the wrong



> thing.



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> Dinesh



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I may look a bit awkward but may I be practical.  I would regret if all the 
moral lessons would only go for a VI in the world today.



I reckon this woman has been somewhat immature in feeling blackmailed by 
inability/inefficiency of a blind person & counts herself a lot in her senses 
of doing right & wrong.  But if we look at the issue with various perspectives 
of life, things may be seen in some other lights too.



It's my personal experience & have undergone.  Some parents approached me to 
get their VI child admission in some blind school in class 9th last year.  I 
ran toes from NAB Delhi to BRA, King's way, Panchkiya, Lucknow, Benaras, NIVH 
Dehradun-there was no place for a blind boy to study.  Irony today whereas is 
that CBSE allowed this boy to go privately, CBSE relaxes the rules today in 
schools asking no students to fail by Std.VIII, grade markings to destress 
students.  

In eastern UP, certificates are purchased on few thousantds, Railway recruits 
are purchased & whole q paper solved & most illitwerate employed by paying few 
lacs.



Is blind committing henous crime if this lady has helped him & made him 
eligible to have education which even blind schools deny today?  I understand 
her conscience is still crude & needs maturation to go by the ways of the world.



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