Hi. Whatever happened was justice. Whatever is happening is also justice and whatever is going to happen is also going to be justice. This is all natural law, so don't worry be happy.
On 3/20/15, Arjun Malhotra <malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Truth be said, What ever the writer has expressed in her post is the > reality of not only VI but every classes of students. If you allow me > to classify students and examination takers. prima facie her claims > and observations rightly point at dishonest atitude of VI. If we > excogitate on the reasons for dishonest means employed in exams. The > writer is right but her point of view is a distorted reality which > lacks the understanding of ground realities. Let me ask this, even are > we in a position to discuss/debate on this issue? When basic fesility > leading up to the exams, pre-exam/ learning/ access to books and > study material, equal treatment for all VI etc etc issues are not > sorted. I as a student of law not only just have to buy books and read > but also have get it scanned and edited which is a conscientious > process. Which is in addition to other concerns pertaining to > disability which I need to address. I'm not justifying use of > dishonest means, for them we have law and established procedure of law > to deal with it. It would be against the natural justice if we not > look at the issues which are incidental and ancillary to examination. > We as disability activist have to redefine the principal of survival > of the fittest. We need to act as a support system and have to ensure > the transaction from treditional approach to modern technical approach > should be smooth. A haphazard and slapdash transaction will be > precursor to discontent among our felas. > > Arjun M > > On 3/20/15, bala9119 <bala9...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I second your opinion sir. the system that deals with the visually >> impaired stands fragile. although today is late, it is better late >> than never to move towards the accomplaishment of smooth flow of >> system not only in education but in every aspect that determines >> personal life and liberty. for that, we must creat awareness among us, >> then only we can collaborate with the sighted and non-disabled >> society. computerization of exams alone not a fair solution, but >> mandating computer training from the primary schools of the visually >> challenged "special Schools" would be the best solution for the future >> progress where computerization of exams can be proliferated. apart >> from that, those who enroll themselves in a visually impaired schools >> must be made to learn Braille. besides computer and another person to >> write, Braille seems to me the most apt, independent mode of writing >> exams. I feel sad to see the significance of Braille going down among >> the youngsters like us. I always consider the visually impaired who >> don't know Braille as not only a person of physical Blindness but >> communication blindness as well. lets work for a change in the >> system, >> thank you. >> On 3/20/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: >>> Yes the situation is grim. We all know it. The focus therefore needs to >>> be >>> on bettering the situation and not on encouraging mal practice and >>> values >>> that do not help in the long run. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Misbah >>> Sent: 19 March 2015 23:41 >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning >>> the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually >>> Impaired >>> - >>> Akanksha Mittal. >>> >>> Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with >>> blindness in this country? Does anyone know how the literacy rate >>> among the blind is? Does anyone know how many blind persons have been >>> employed in public/private enterprises? >>> The ratio is appalling, only 48_% blind have managed to acquire basic >>> literacy in comparison to general ratio which is now 71%, >>> Only 10% passed 12th, around 2 to 3% are in so called higher >>> education. Out of million blind a handful does uses or would have ever >>> heard of screen reader application available for them. 0.4% in public >>> and 0.3% in private sector they are employed. >>> Consider these actual facts and please try to sensitize your arguments >>> in light of these facts which are even a blot on the already educated >>> and elite segments of our community. The law for us came in 1995 and >>> it has started implementing recently not by the government but by the >>> judicial indictments and now because of such legal fighting if handful >>> of blind persons have gained some respectability their competency has >>> started recognize by the private/governmental authorities than we >>> ourselves have started pulling the legs of our own people? I don't >>> understand what sorts of awareness, sensitizing whistle blowing we are >>> doing. >>> One does not know how much competent and capable few blind >>> students/aspirant has become that they are getting hard fighting from >>> other blind fellow itself doo hope that this self-blaming attitude >>> will amend its way neither it may results mutual suicide within our >>> community. >>> >>> >>> On 3/19/15, bala9119 <bala9...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Thanks for specifying the period in which the article has been posted. >>>> then you are right, there is no end in talking about the post. but, I >>>> think we can surely talk about the aftermath. unquestionably the >>>> article of her could have had some impacts among us on us, but the >>>> bitter truth is, she stands true in expressing what she wanted. with >>>> regard to my statement on "self-proclaimed activists", you know very >>>> well and I know for sure that, it was not attributed to you. it was >>>> justa generalized insinuation to increase the severety of the >>>> indictment nothing else. I know what have you done for the betterment >>>> of us in your capacity and I wholeheartedly respect that. >>>> thank you. >>>> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it >>>>> has >>>>> no >>>>> end. >>>>> >>>>> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual >>>>> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable >>>>> number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her >>>>> experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification >>>>> of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never >>>>> claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check >>>>> the archive... It was just an effort as researcher to underline the >>>>> salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3/19/15, bala9119 <bala9...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our >>>>>> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2 >>>>>> of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to >>>>>> propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready >>>>>> to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we >>>>>> must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the >>>>>> so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute >>>>>> because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called >>>>>> self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the >>>>>> visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic >>>>>> drawbacks. >>>>>> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the >>>>>> visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we >>>>>> give." >>>>>> its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the >>>>>> false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not >>>>>> impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the >>>>>> visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such >>>>>> defense >>>>>> proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to >>>>>> malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere >>>>>> visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the >>>>>> upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts >>>>>> by citing the blockades. for example, during my mains exam this year, >>>>>> one visually impaired candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper >>>>>> whent on with little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper, >>>>>> he has begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator >>>>>> found this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant >>>>>> at that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the >>>>>> aspects of reformation because the aspirant has no options? or the >>>>>> invigilator should reprimand the aspirant. undoubtedly as a >>>>>> co-aspirant, i will opt for reprimand which is what the invigilator >>>>>> has done. because the aspirant's intention to indulge in malpractice >>>>>> not only sends a wrong message to the sighted invigilator, but it >>>>>> hurts me, who is a fellow community member cum the prepared >>>>>> co-aspirant. while we expect dignified treatment, we must do >>>>>> community >>>>>> cleansing to avoid being the burden to the society. there is a long >>>>>> long way to achieve community cleanliness and as is the dignified, >>>>>> equal treatment. lets not be pseudo-libertarians, >>>>>> thank you. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> "It doesn't matter what we have, but it really matters what we do >>>>>> with >>>>>> what we have." >>>>>> >>>>>> With Sincere Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Balanagendran. D >>>>>> IAS Aspirant >>>>>> Skype: balanagendran >>>>>> Twitter: >>>>>> http://twitter.com/balanagendran89 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>> accessibility >>>>>> of >>>>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>> >>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>>> please >>>>>> visit the list home page at >>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>> 1. 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D >> IAS Aspirant >> Skype: balanagendran >> Twitter: >> http://twitter.com/balanagendran89 >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. 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