Sorry for my previous post on this thread. I  saw this thread being
closed by you moderator. Sincerely apologize.

On 3/21/15, Radha <r.radh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ah, one of the satirical question posed to me by my scribe, "having
> plans of getting into government jobs, where you people have no
> work?". If we tangled into these scribe words, then we can never come
> up. I  gave her the answer, yup, you people are there to pay taxes
> which in turn our salary. So work for the nation as well as uplift
> Indian economy.
>
> On 3/20/15, Vedprakash <vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In every community, there are good/bad persons.
>> The Visually Impaired are no exception.
>> Although it is better not to use unfair means during examinations, But
>> most
>> of us do use such means if we get opportunities.
>> When everybody cheats if there is a scope for the same, why the visually
>> impaired should be blamed.
>> They have their own set of problems and they also use unfair means to get
>> promoted.
>> When others cheat, most of the times, it does not come out. But when the
>> visually impaired cheat, at least their writers would surely know.
>> This is the difference.
>> Cheating is a general problem during examinations and everybody has
>> different experiences to share.
>> Let us leave it on this point that it is for the individual to decide as
>> to
>> what path he/she chooses in life.
>> Let the candidate decide whether or not he would use the unfair means.
>> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Avichal Bhatnagar
>> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 11:42 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired
>> -
>> Akanksha Mittal.
>>
>> The discussion has been a very fruitful one, with different opinions
>> coming
>> out.
>> Now, I would like to put forward some points, which are based on my
>> personal
>> experience.
>> I have seen many blind people who are capable enough to study and pass
>> the
>> exams with good marks, but they lack the will to do so.
>> Hence, they rely heavily upon their writers, which is a great risk.
>> Sometimes, they pay their writers double the amount sanctioned by the
>> examination authority so that the writer comes fully prepared for the
>> exam.
>> I agree that computer exams can not be made compulsory at this time, but
>> a
>> better scruteny of the writer's background can help in preventing
>> cheating
>> to some extent.
>> Sometimes, some people bring writers of a very high level and say that
>> they
>> are just twelfth pass.
>> If a blind person is capable enough, then he/she will not cheat in the
>> first
>> place.
>> And if he/she cheats, then that clearly means that he/she is totally
>> incompetent for the exam.
>> Acording to me, if a blind person is found cheating, then that person
>> should
>> be debarred from taking that examination for at least the next five
>> years.
>> If a sighted person is found cheating, it will be an insult only for him.
>> Where as if a blind person is caught doing the same, the entire community
>> gets stereotyped.
>> Whether we accept it or not, but its the reality.
>>
>> On 3/20/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi <ingalagisi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes Sir, I think, why the people cheat in exam, because, they have
>>> loss their faith in system. and they have no hope in their life to
>>> pass exam. When they experience about bad old insidents, they try to
>>> implement in current exams. Their goal is just pass. So, for those
>>> people, counsling is must require to do them best. And, in exam
>>> system, also changes are must implement. by putting Cctv.
>>>
>>> On 3/19/15, bala9119 <bala9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of
>>>> sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing
>>>> the buck.
>>>> thank you.
>>>> On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi <ingalagisi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also
>>>>> copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident.
>>>>> So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz
>>>>>> it has no end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
>>>>>> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that
>>>>>> sigeable number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she
>>>>>> sharing her experience on public platform is well-taken, however
>>>>>> the ramification of piece on blind people is equally important to
>>>>>> be discussed. I never claim in an absolute term that I'm an
>>>>>> activist at all one could check the archive...  It was just an
>>>>>> effort as researcher to underline the salient features of her
>>>>>> argument.
>> One could differ in entirety.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/19/15, bala9119 <bala9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
>>>>>>> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer
>>>>>>> described 2 of her own experience not to demean the visually
>>>>>>> impaired but to propagate the significance of equal opportunities.
>>>>>>> while we are ready to accept the appreciation from the outer world
>>>>>>> (non-disabled), we must also be ready to intra-community
>>>>>>> cleansing. undoubtedly the so-called whistleblowers of the
>>>>>>> visually impaired deserves salute because they are the one who
>>>>>>> stands empathetic while the so-called self-proclaimed activists
>>>>>>> and the driving force of the future of the visually impaired stand
>> sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
>>>>>>> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on
>>>>>>> the visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we
>> give."
>>>>>>> its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump
>>>>>>> the false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult,
>>>>>>> but not impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice
>>>>>>> of the visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but
>>>>>>> such defense proves that all the visually impaired are left with
>>>>>>> no options but to malpractice. moreover, such notion would
>>>>>>> contaminate the sincere visually impaired candidate who believes
>>>>>>> in him or herself in the upliftment of the standard of living
>>>>>>> instead of opting for shortcuts by citing the blockades. for
>>>>>>> example, during my mains exam this year, one visually impaired
>>>>>>> candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper whent on with
>>>>>>> little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper, he has
>>>>>>> begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator found
>>>>>>> this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant at
>>>>>>> that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the
>>>>>>> aspects of reformation because the aspirant has no options? or the
>>>>>>> invigilator should reprimand the aspirant. undoubtedly as a
>>>>>>> co-aspirant, i will opt for reprimand which is what the
>>>>>>> invigilator has done. because the aspirant's intention to indulge
>>>>>>> in malpractice not only sends a wrong message to the sighted
>>>>>>> invigilator, but it hurts me, who is a fellow community member cum
>>>>>>> the prepared co-aspirant. while we expect dignified treatment, we
>>>>>>> must do community cleansing to avoid being the burden to the
>>>>>>> society. there is a long long way to achieve community cleanliness
>>>>>>> and as is the dignified, equal treatment. lets not be
>> pseudo-libertarians, thank you.
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> with what we have."
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Balanagendran. D
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> "Everything you want in your life is waiting for you an inch outside
> your comfort zone, and an inch inside your effort."
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your comfort zone, and an inch inside your effort."



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