On 2020-05-05, at 06:54, Jim Schaad <i...@augustcellars.com> wrote:
> 
> I have much the same problem.  While a client could find an AS which would
> authenticate the client, I don't know how the client would establish any
> degree of trust in the AS which is going to give it tokens.  

Hence the four-corner model [1].

Grüße, Carsten

[1]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ace-actors

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