You are correct. "Sammy Setup" is not going to be a CD-slinger in the AD
world.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter A. Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory - Visions from the field


> I can understand that many are converting to 2000 for the stability of the
> platform and many are not rushing to embrace AD, but I don't think
Microsoft
> is giving any choice. Many products like, ISA and Exchange are required to
> use AD now. The ones who are not embracing, still don't have a plan.
Having
> a plan in place today is paramount to converting at a later time. Its the
> decisions being made now that will make or break the conversion at a later
> date. The intent of this reply in no way is trying to contradict what your
> saying, I agree for the most part. I'm just wondering if we have to many
> "Technical Experts" around who are missing a very key fundamental
> requirement of success, plan, pilot implement. I think 4.0 allowed anyone
> to, Insert CD, Pick Defaults and run. I'm also thinking this is what many
> executives and mangers think is what's going to happen when the time comes
> to convert. Hey, I like the business but I guess what I'm wondering, is
this
> going to shake out a lot of the "Technical Experts" and people who became
> the "Lan Administrator", because they could insert the cd and follow the
> wizard. Perhaps the answer is, remove the wizards and make the
installations
> require some thought? Just posing more on the subject.
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Great Cthulhu
> Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 11:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory - Visions from the field
>
>
> Many are converting to Windows 2000 for the stability of the platform. Few
> are rushing to embrace Active Directory. Some of the best successes are
> single-server shops where it's hard to mess things up as deeply and
> profoundly as you could with two or more servers in the mix.
>
> (:=
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter A. Solomon
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 7:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Active Directory - Visions from the field
>
>
> Hello,
> I just joined the list, so I will start with saying hello. The reason for
> the post is I am curious what others are seeing in the field as far as
> planning, and design. I'm getting the overall feeling for small to
mid-size
> companies that they are avoiding the AD concept as long as they can. The
> majority of clients I have been seen are all talking about active
directory
> but when the topic of really converting to it comes up, they run for the
> hills. I've also seen a number of sloppy attempts at planning for AD. I
> think one of the bigger misconceptions in the field is that AD planning
> doesn't have to be taken as seriously as touted.
> With NT 4.0, it was told that you must plan your domain's. The single,
> master, muli-master and complete trust was always a favorite interview
> question, right up there with what are the seven layers of the ISO model.
> With Windows NT 4.0 you could do a poor job of planning a domain, and many
> people got by with their mess. Many of these same companies are still in
> that mess and if they were to start migrating today, it would be a
disaster.
> I also see the "Yes Active Directory, Its Great!, Blah Blah Blah". When
the
> topic of planning and steps taken comes up, I get a half baked answer and
> they change the subject, "Look A Moose!" Then in the next couple of
breaths,
> "Were going to Exchange 2000, were planning it now, its going to be great.
> >From my experience of seeing half a** attempts at 4.0 domains, I can just
> imagine what its going to look like with Active directory.
> Perhaps this is just what I'm seeing, I would like to see what others see.
> With all the hype removed, what are others honest opinion on where the AD
> conversions are going and what the average domain looks like.
>
> Pete Solomon
>
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