Funny...we heard nearly the exact same comments about JD Edwards
Wasn't true of course...but the comments were the same :D
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Tivoli today is not nearly as horrible on the Windows Server Platform as it
may have been before. Reference the following article...starting at about
paragraph 7:
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=6502661
IBM's "IBM Tivoli Monitoring" products are nearly completely based on WMI.
ITM seems to provide flexibility and capability to effectively monitor
one's windows server platform w/o wanting to take a shot at the developers
for making your life Hell. I am an admitted convert. I'm certainly not
saying that Tivoli is the best [I don't know who is.]. ITM does have its
limitations and issues. I am saying that the Tivoli products needed to
monitor a Windows Server infrastructure are 'today' should not be the
resource drain that it may have been in the past...providing you leave the
past in the past...don't bring that "stuff" (<--being kind) over to the new
and improved Tivoli...
One could even simply attribute this notion to the fact that ITM, again is
almost completely based on WMI (Windows Management Instrumentation). Any
one directly leveraging WMI is quite aware of the capabilities...
especially on W2k/W2k3 boxes. From a 'single product' standpoint, you
won't go wrong with selecting MOM, AppManager, or Tivoli.
Eric Jones, Senior SE
Intel Server Group
(W) 336.424.3084
(M) 336.457.2591
www.vfc.com
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But, at what cost?
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Here ya' go. You will probably "enjoy" managing with Tivoli's current
products. I'm monitoring our entire W2k3/AD lab environment with Tivoli.
I think they've gotten it right this time (with customization).
http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/Portals/TivoliTME10MailingList
Eric Jones, Senior SE
Intel Server Group
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Any of you folks know of a good list (or would that be a "support group"?)
for Tivoli?
John A. Bjelke
Unisys
505.853.6774
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