That's consistent with my experience as well. Consulting $$$ often get out of control, and complete implementation is rarely achieved. A statistic I recall from last year was that approx 30% of all Tivoli sales concluded with a successful deployment within the first year. 70%... didn't
-gil -----Original Message----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Tivoli I've talked with folks over the years who have tried to implement Tivoli 100%. 100% doesn't seem attainable. Tivoli implementations generally last 2-4 years before they give up and find another product. There's quite a bit of development involved in getting it to work in each environment, which usually means bringing in Tivoli consultants at $250-500 per hour. Tivoli tends to infest companies where SMS is already installed and running, so there are quite a few horror stories from SMS Admins. I'd suggest doing a search on the SMS list for 'Tivoli'. http://www.topica.com/lists/mssms/read -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Flesher Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Tivoli It's funny you ask that question. We are in the midst of figuring out what the cost will be to implement/maintain Tivoli for monitoring/software distribution/inventory. How much of an increase in staff is necessary? Completely off topic, I know. Just curious if anyone can share there success/horror stories on implementing Tivoli. What size shop, what did it cost, how much of an increase in staff? Chris Flesher The University of Chicago NSIT/DCS 1-773-834-8477 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Trent Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Tivoli But, at what cost? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Tivoli Here ya' go. You will probably "enjoy" managing with Tivoli's current products. I'm monitoring our entire W2k3/AD lab environment with Tivoli. I think they've gotten it right this time (with customization). http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/Portals/TivoliTME10MailingList Eric Jones, Senior SE Intel Server Group (W) 336.424.3084 (M) 336.457.2591 www.vfc.com |---------+----------------------------------> | | Bjelke John A Contr | | | AFRL/VSIO | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | f.mil> | | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | tivedir.org | | | | | | | | | 07/14/2003 11:38 AM | | | Please respond to | | | ActiveDir | | | | |---------+----------------------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- ---------------------------------------------------| | | | To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | cc: | | Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Tivoli | >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- ---------------------------------------------------| Any of you folks know of a good list (or would that be a "support group"?) for Tivoli? John A. Bjelke Unisys 505.853.6774 [EMAIL PROTECTED] C8H10N4O2 Philosophy! Empty thinking by ignorant conceited men who think they can digest without eating! -Iris Murdoch List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/