Same here, more times than I care to remember :-[

Since RAM has gotten cheap it has gotten very t e d i o u s to FTP those huge buggers 
up, but they do get to the bottom of the problem, usually like you said a 3rd party 
filter driver.

lol

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 4:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Pagefile sizes... Its that time of year again.


Lucky you! :-)

I've become quite adept at reading dumps and determining what the problem(s)
are with specific instances - what driver faulted and why, what third party
to contact and get a patch from - and MS has requested dumps from us on 3
different occasions with a 'teal' screen condition that ended up being a
McAfee issue, etc.

I'm glad that you've never needed a dump, Roger.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:56 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Pagefile sizes... Its that time of year again.

Actually, I disable the dumps anyway - in 6+ years I've never once been
asked for or needed one.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:15 AM
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> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Pagefile sizes... Its that time of year 
> again.
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Maximum pagefile size is not 4GB.  The limit for a "manually" 
> configured
> pagefile is 4GB.  When set to "System Managed", the page
> file(s) will be
> whatever the server needs.  You 'must' use the setting of "system 
> managed"
> to accommodate servers with more that this amount of memory.  
> Otherwise the
> respective server would never be able to "dump" properly.  
> And we all want
> good "dumps"... ;-)
> 
> Windows 2003 seems to do a pretty good job at memory management 
> (virtual & physical).  We run several large SQL2k ENT/W2k3 boxes are 
> very pleased with the performance despite not being able to set the 
> pagefile size(s) statically.
> 
> 
> 
> Eric Jones, Senior SE
> Intel Server Group
> (W) 336.424.3084
> (M) 336.457.2591
> www.vfc.com
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> Pagefile max is 4 GB. Regardless of how much memory you have.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Pagefile sizes... Its that time of 
> year again.
> 
> 
> But in reality, that rule of thumb was created when RAM was 
> very expensive,
> and systems usually had a very small amount of it. By that token, I'd
> require a separate array for the pagefile on my new database 
> boxes - since
> I'd need to find space for a 9GB pagefile.
> 
> With modern systems, I shoot for about 1-2GB max, depending 
> on function.
> Most large memory hog applications - specifically Exchange 
> and SQL server -
> don't like to page, and there is no performance benefit for 
> them to do so,
> since all that data is already on disk within their store.
> 
> Roger
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Costanzo, Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:24 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Pagefile sizes... Its that time of
> > year again.
> >
> >
> > The rule of thumb I've always heard is RAM×1.5, so 1.5 GB.
> >
> > Ray at work
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > >
> > > So you have a Gig of ram on a DC, what do you all set the
> > > pagefile size to?
> > > Memory +11 MB?
> > >
> > > Like to hear your feedback.
> >
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