Not if your SUS server is used to supply the fixes to your test environment.

Kenneth W. (Ken) Adams, MCSA, MCSE



-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:22 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now


The approval in the change management process should be before the update is
even deployed -- after testing against applications, services,
infrastructure, rollback, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams, Kenneth W
(Ken)
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:30 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now

It's also good if you have a Change Management process that requires a CM
record be created and approved by a review board before the actual
installation occurs.

Ken A., MCSA, MCSE



-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:49 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now


That's good if you have a minimal number of servers. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams, Kenneth W
(Ken)
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:42 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now

I'll be setting up SUS SP updates to servers, only I set my servers to
download and notify, not to automatically install and boot.  I keep control
that way.

Ken A., MCSA, MCSE



-----Original Message-----
From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:13 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now


As it will only run on W2KSP2+ Clients SMS is still needed for NT4 Clients.

But another question,  how many here will setup SUS SP updates to Servers?
i.e 100 servers all being rebooted at 3am Sunday morning ??

-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 September 2003 09:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now


Have just picked up on this thread of SUS - looks a real winner

would be glad for the views of the positioning of this product relative to
SMS ??

GT

----- Original Message -----
From: "Free, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:44 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now


>a complete rollup with every patch released for a particular OS.

There is actually a current WU beta along those lines...

If history repeats, it may be available sooner than later


-----Original Message-----
From: Crenshaw, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:17 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now


You should see a "roll-back/recall" in SUS 2.0.  I didn't hear about the
SP's being available in SUS until this morning when I saw that it was
something that was available to be published, so something or someone must
have pulled the trigger for this to happen.  Being an Enterprise customer of
Microsoft, they usually go way out of their way to ensure that we know about
major upcoming changes before going live with them.

I guess Microsoft is tired of getting slammed with deployment problems for
SP's.  For anyone not using SMS, UpdateExpert, or something else along those
lines, deploying SP's enterprise wide can be a task within itself.

It's too bad that Microsoft doesn't offer patches in a two prong manner. One
being you can just install the one "hotfix" for a particular problem and the
other would be a complete rollup with every patch released for a particular
OS.

Of course, it is easy to say that from a customer side.  I don't have to
write or manage any of the changes; I just have to work with what I am
given.

Jason




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