SUS 1.x doesn't support rollback, however, at least not well. And it doesn't really support per machine configurations very well, either. Hence the reason I don't mind babysitting it.
I will tell you that between SUS and the NWSUSUtil (linked from http://www.susserver.com), its turned a multiday fiasco into an easy morning for my junior sysadmin chipmunk and I. And we laid down a number of service packs manually as well, so it would have been even shorter. -------------------------------------------------------------- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 2:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > That's where the rollback testing of the change management > process comes > into play. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Roger Seielstad > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:52 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > Even with testing, I'd rather spend 4 hours on a Saturday > morning (which is > what we did a few weeks ago) updating every server we manage > "manually" than > just push a button and have the entire datacenter reboot itself > automagically. > > Testing doesn't account for everything in every case - unless > you want to > enter the realm of analysis paralysis. A former coworker > tested NT4 service > packs quite literally until the next one was released. > > Roger > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:22 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > > > > The approval in the change management process should be before the > > update is even deployed -- after testing against applications, > > services, infrastructure, rollback, etc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams, > > Kenneth W > > (Ken) > > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:30 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > > It's also good if you have a Change Management process that > requires a > > CM record be created and approved by a review board before > the actual > > installation occurs. > > > > Ken A., MCSA, MCSE > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:49 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > > > > That's good if you have a minimal number of servers. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams, > > Kenneth W > > (Ken) > > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:42 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > > I'll be setting up SUS SP updates to servers, only I set my > servers to > > download and notify, not to automatically install and boot. > > I keep control > > that way. > > > > Ken A., MCSA, MCSE > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:13 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > > > > As it will only run on W2KSP2+ Clients SMS is still needed for NT4 > > Clients. > > > > But another question, how many here will setup SUS SP updates to > > Servers? > > i.e 100 servers all being rebooted at 3am Sunday morning ?? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Graham Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 19 September 2003 09:44 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > > > > Have just picked up on this thread of SUS - looks a real winner > > > > would be glad for the views of the positioning of this product > > relative to SMS ?? > > > > GT > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Free, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:44 PM > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > > > > >a complete rollup with every patch released for a particular OS. > > > > There is actually a current WU beta along those lines... > > > > If history repeats, it may be available sooner than later > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Crenshaw, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:17 PM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > > > > You should see a "roll-back/recall" in SUS 2.0. I didn't > hear about > > the SP's being available in SUS until this morning when I > saw that it > > was something that was available to be published, so something or > > someone must have pulled the trigger for this to happen. Being an > > Enterprise customer of Microsoft, they usually go way out > of their way > > to ensure that we know about major upcoming changes before > going live > > with them. > > > > I guess Microsoft is tired of getting slammed with > deployment problems > > for SP's. For anyone not using SMS, UpdateExpert, or > something else > > along those lines, deploying SP's enterprise wide can be a > task within > > itself. > > > > It's too bad that Microsoft doesn't offer patches in a two prong > > manner. One being you can just install the one "hotfix" for a > > particular problem and the other would be a complete rollup > with every > > patch released for a particular OS. > > > > Of course, it is easy to say that from a customer side. 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