I was actually pretty unhappy when I saw this functionality. You should
almost NEVER place single users on ACLs. MS themselves tell people this is a
best practice, use groups... Then they make it easy to do.  

At least allow people to select security groups to be placed in that
attribute... You can place groups in it if you use scripts... The larger the
company the less likely you will be wanting single users listed as who can
manage any one group. 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO
(HP-Germany,ex1)
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange 2003 DL

if you're running E2k3 in a Win2003 AD, you might want to use the ManagedBy
attribute of the group afterall: 2003 has a new function in ADUC, which
simplifies setting the permissions for managing group-memberships for the
user defined as the manager of a group. 

You just have to select the new option "Allow Manager of group to change
membership" on the same tab in ADUC, which automatically grants "Write
Members" for the User Object on the respective Group object.

The obvious downside here is, that you can only use this for a single user
object who is defined to be the manager of the group - you can't use this
approach to assign the permissions for multiple users or for a group that
contains all your users who should be granted the specific permissions...

But if you only have 1 delegated user for managing the group memberships,
this may still be a valid option.

/Guido

-----Original Message-----
From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Samstag, 27. März 2004 23:55
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange 2003 DL

They need WP (Write Property) on the member attribute of the group.  

Assuming the following

OU: GroupTestOU
Delegated Admin Group: joe\TestOU-GroupTestOU-GrpAdmin


You can use the following DSACLS command on the OU to delegate the ability
to change membership to all groups within the OU.  

dsacls OU=GroupTestOU,OU=TestOU,DC=joe,DC=com /I:S /G
joe\TestOU-GroupTestOU-GrpAdmin:WP;member;group

Note I highly recommend doing the delegation on the OUs versus on individual
groups as it tends to be easier to track down later. 

If you wanted it on one specific group the command would be like 

dsacls cn=testou-grouptestou-dl1,OU=GroupTestOU,OU=TestOU,DC=joe,DC=com /I:P
/G joe\TestOU-GroupTestOU-GrpAdmin:WP;member;



Note that if you have multiple domains and especially GCs from multiple
domains in the site with the Exchange Servers you will almost certainly run
into issues modifying group memberships through Outlook. It is all FUBAR
right now and being looked at to be corrected - look for previous posts from
me in the archives concerning the issues. If you have a single domain
deployment you will be fine. 

If you have multiple domains, I don't even recommend using Outlook to do the
management. Use the Find Person dialogs or use ADUC or a custom web site.

  joe



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A.
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:18 PM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange 2003 DL

I have a issue here that I am struggling with.  On Exchange 5.5, I was able
to add people to be able to modify the membership of DL through outlook
without them having to be the Manager or owner of the DL.

Now that I am on Exchange 2003, what permissions do groups or user accounts
need to have in order to modify the groups through outlook?


Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
212.752.7300 - office
917.455.0110 - cell
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