I guess watching programmers code would be no more boring than any of
the other reality shows...how about "Fear Factoring", or "the Amazing
Race Condition" ?
Dave

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick
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Programming as taught by Catholic nuns! Father Djykstra and Sister Grace
(Murray Hopper)! What a great concept. It ould be a sitcom. Or even
beter a "reality" show (that way you don't have to pay those expensive
script writers).

-gil

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Was that before or after they smacked your knuckles with a wooden ruler?
;)

If more places would teach coding like that, there'd be a lot more,
better code going around.

Dave 


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Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:09 AM
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Robbie also says you should cut me a government check for $3.2 billion
and I should email you a copy of adfind and admod. You can list them as
a hammer and a screwdriver or a WoMD detector or something. 

If I had that kind of money to play with can you imagine the joeware
that would be available? OMG!

I would have to hire more coders. I would treat it like school, or at
least the school I went through. If you write something bad you sit in a
classroom with everyone watching the screen and the teacher says, and
this is an example of what Mr. Richards thinks is good code as he puts
in 5000 characters into a buffer according to the specs needed to be 256
characters and it slowly self-destructs the machine.... Mr. Richards,
when I say in the spec the buffer should be 256 bytes, that doesn't mean
make the buffer 256 bytes and leave it at that. I expect you to actually
make sure no one puts more than 256 bytes in it! Actually, I wish more
college professors had taught that way. We also had fun times around
integer overflows and other fun and interesting coding flaws like why M
and m really aren't the same even though we don't pronounce them
differently, etc. 


  joe
 

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(NIH/CC/DNA)
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"Buy-guy" is Robbie Allen's label for me.

No, no kick back (Although they are a Maryland company), just think it
is a really effective tool for bulk administration.  I tend to be
scripting / LDIF challenged early in the AM, and late at night (Who am I
kidding, I am just scripting challenged). I have been able to automate
so much work these past two weeks using this tool, so I offer it as a
possible solution.

Toddler  

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From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:01 PM
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A buy guy??

I would be happy to sell you a copy of adfind and admod if that is the
only thing holding you back. How much you want to spend on them?

In the meanwhile, you getting a kickback from Javelina? That has got to
be the 4 post or so in a week where you have dropped that name. :)

  joe 



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For a cost conscious and hands on types, Joe's tools and Robbie Allen's
scripts are the best value.  I am a "Buy-Guy" though, and for bulk
administration, and delegation of bulk administration to those that are
not that AD Savvy, I like AD Toolkit http://www.javelinasoftware.com

AD Toolkit offers the ability to generate quick reports, and also does a
good job of identifying every field that you can populate and query on.
A lot of times, you will have to find documentation on the fields on
MSDN to know which ones to query on.  Reports can be converted to
spreadsheets or emailed to you, and there is a scheduling option as
well.

Todd


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From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:35 AM
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You aren't missing anything. Extending ADUC to display new fields it
doesn't already display is generally not trivial. Unless you are a
programmer, it is often considered out of reach.

The most quick and dirty solution is to write a script to do the update.
After that would be using a web interface of some sort or something like
that. 

If you are a programmer, you can fairly quickly throw together a form
display what you want displayed the way you want it displayed and even
include business logic in what gets set and how which can be specific to
your company, division, group, team, etc... Just don't forget that those
business rules are in your client and not in the server so don't expect
them to always be correct as someone could use another method to update
the fields.

   joe
 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:28 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] The missing fields

There are a number of useful fields in AD Room number, License Plate etc
that are not presented in ADUC, the recommendation is to fill them in
programmatically. I have been asked to delegate the power to edit these
fields to a phone book operator, who really wants a simply interface
like users and computers.
 
The search function can be harnessed with a QDS file query and rundll32
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dsquery.dll,OpenSavedDsQuery %1 which allows the
user to edit given the right privs most of the data but some of it e.g.
room number is still beyond my reach.
 
Its such a simple thing that I know I'm missing something obvious but
some help would be appreciated. What approaches are other people using
if any or do we not use these "hidden" unless its with dsmod?

Gary
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