Curses! I don't want to do all that!!! ;-) I'm a gui guy, because I don't have the scripting skills yet. So are you saying Shavlik is more (and/or easier) gui than WSUS? And I'm not into annoyance either so what are the big annoyances here in WSUS versus Shavlik?
Seriously. I'm trying to learn here. Thanks. RH ____________________ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:08 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Patch Management After I test on a test network at home, after I apply them to my 'canary boxes' and check and make sure everything is fine, after I watch the chatter on the patchmangement.org listserve and google on the newsgroups for the KB article number to see if everything looks good and check my own SBS newsgroup because someone has already installed it during the lunch hour or middle of the day.... That's 'instant' gratification 'after' a patch testing process and change management process. Once that patch is 'approved' I want it on the boxes as fast as I can. The tool is irrelevant. Pick one and get it set up. I like gui. And WSUS annoys me. It's the risk analysis and change management process that is the hard part. Rocky Habeeb wrote: >So ... >You reboot on the fly ... >And I'm sure everybody is fine with that ... >And everything is tested ... >And you can promise all your users that none of their 700 apps are going to >crash ... > >Just asking, because if that's the promise of Shavlik, then I'll stop >working on trying to get my WSUS system up. > >RH >______________________________ > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan Bradley, >CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] >Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:43 PM >To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Patch Management > > >Sorry one other thing.. when I want to have instant gratification and >control... I patch ..right then and force a reboot of all >workstations/servers, etc. There's no waiting for them to check in, or >scripting a faster checkin [horrors] to get a faster patch deployment. >Also it had SBS specific patches way before WSUS did. > >I'm a gui gal....what do you expect? > >When I want things patched and patched right now...and not within the >next # number of hours... a push solution is way better than a pull in >my opinion. > >Za Vue wrote: > > > >>We tested on wkstations and servers and decided it was not worth the >>hefty price. My opinion is that it is too slow, tested on a duel CPU >>P4 system. (Personally I think the GUI is ugly) We ran into firewall >>issues as well. I have a dedicated W23K server for WSUS, no problem. >> >>Microsoft workstations, Microsoft servers, why not make everything >>Microsoft? Makes life easier in my environment. Now if I can only get >>rid of those damn Macs. >> >>Z.V. >> >> >>Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: >> >> >> >>>Shavlik runs from my Desktop. >>> >>>Za Vue wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Pretty much all patch management applications require a server. >>>> >>>>-Z.V. >>>> >>>>Pohlschneider, Chris wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Does anyone have recommendations for patch management software that >>>>>could be >>>>>installed on a desktop type system to manage a network with 120 >>>>>nodes for >>>>>updates and patches. I was looking at WSUS, but the requirements >>>>>are that >>>>>you need a server OS, plus the minimum requirements were pretty stout. >>>>>Thanks in advance for recommendations!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Chris Pohlschneider >>>>>Network Administrator >>>>>Cenveo-Sidney >>>>>937-497-2136 >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>>Cenveo is your visual communications connection for a broad >>>>>portfolio of >>>>>services and products including eServices, envelopes, offset and >>>>>digital >>>>>printing, labels and business documents >>>>> >>>>> >>>>List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : >>>>http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >>List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >>List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ >> >> >> > >-- >Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? >http://www.threatcode.com > >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
