Al Mulnick wrote:
Shot in the dark, but can you reboot the 2K dc and try again/check for errors?

I've done that a few times when I was trying to make sure there wasn't a GPO with a incorrect setting causing the problem.

        al

On 6/20/06, *Al Lilianstrom* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Al Mulnick wrote:
     > I'm with joe on getting that network trace.  I'm curious if
    replication
     > has been working and if you made any adjustments for having a
    windows
     > 2000 dc in a W2K3 environment? Any other applications?
     >

    Replication is working - both AD and FRS. GPOs apply. Everything seems
    to work except for the ability to access the admin$ share on the w2k3
    DCs so that I can demote the machine cleanly and remove it from the
    domain.

    The trace is in my message sent around 11:00am Central.

    No other apps running.

     >
     > On 6/20/06, *joe* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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     > wrote:
     >
     >     What do you see in the network trace? Is it attempting the
     >     connection? Is it
     >     establishing the TCP/IP connection and then blowing out in
    the NetBIOS
     >     handshake? Does it get through the handshake and then fail?
     >
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     >     Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Problem removing last w2k DC from a
    w2k3
     >     domain
     >
     >     Al Mulnick wrote:
     >      > Denying access?  Hmm.... so logged on to the w2K machine
    you can't
     >      > access the admin$ share of either of the DC's right?
     >
     >     Correct.
     >
     >     I can access any member server admin$ share from the w2k
    machine. I can
     >     access the w2k3 DC admin$ share from any other w2k3 machine
    in the
     >     domain.
     >
     >     I just can't access the w2k3 DC admin$ share from the w2k DC.
     >
     >            al
     >
     >      >
     >      > On 6/20/06, *Al Lilianstrom* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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     >      >
     >      >     Robert Rutherford wrote:
     >      >      > Hi,
     >      >      >
     >      >      > It does sound like our old pal DNS.
     >      >      >
     >      >      > If you run a dcdiag and netdiag, do they both run
    clean?
     >     If not
     >     then
     >      >      > please post the results.
     >      >
     >      >     Both clean. Every test I can think of comes up clean. The
     >     only real
     >      >     symtom was in the orginal message - lack of admin
    access to
     >     the w2k3
     >     DCs
     >      >     from the w2k DC. Checking the event log on the w2k3 DC
    I see the
     >      >     computer and user log in and out successfully. Just
    something
     >     denying
     >      >     access.
     >      >
     >      >      > If all is clean and it's a test environment then
    pull it and
     >      >     clean it up
     >      >      > with ntdsutil et al.
     >      >
     >      >     Sounds like a fun way to spend the morning. :-)
     >      >
     >      >            al
     >      >
     >      >      > If it's a new situation then just replicate and see
    if you
     >     still
     >     have
     >      >      > the issue. I have always found a couple of hours helps
     >     many ills.
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     >      >      > Subject: [ActiveDir] Problem removing last w2k DC
    from a w2k3
     >     domain
     >      >      >
     >      >      > I've in the process of upgrading my test domain (empty
     >     root and 1
     >      >     child)
     >      >      >
     >      >      > to w2k3 R2 based DCs and (thanks to help from the
    friendly
     >     folks
     >      >     here)
     >      >      > am just about done. I have one last w2k dc left to
    remove. It
     >      >     doesn't
     >      >      > want to go peacefully.
     >      >      >
     >      >      > I moved the FSMO roles off and the next day tried to
     >     dcpromo it
     >      >     down to
     >      >      > a simple server. I get
     >      >      >
     >      >      > Managing the network session with FBDC1.fnal.gov
    <http://FBDC1.fnal.gov>
     >     <http://FBDC1.fnal.gov>
     >      >     < http://FBDC1.fnal.gov> failed
     >      >      >
     >      >      > "Access is denied. "
     >      >      > dcpromoui t:0x848
     >     00479          Exit  State::GetFailureMessage The
     >      >      > operation failed because:
     >      >      >
     >      >      > Managing the network session with FBDC1.fnal.gov
    <http://FBDC1.fnal.gov>
     >     < http://FBDC1.fnal.gov>
     >      >     <http://FBDC1.fnal.gov> failed
     >      >      >
     >      >      > A quick check shows that I can't get to the admin
    shares
     >     of my
     >      >     new w2k3
     >      >      > dc/FSMO role holder from the w2k dc. I can get to
    the admin
     >      >     shares of
     >      >      > the other simple servers but not either of the 2
    DCs. Other
     >      >     systems can
     >      >      > access the admin shares via the domain admin
    account I'm
     >     using on
     >     the
     >      >      > w2k DC.
     >      >      >
     >      >      > I've been searching and have found people having a
    similar
     >      >     problem when
     >      >      > promoting a w2k machine to be a DC but not when
    demoting. I've
     >      >     tried a
     >      >      > number of the things that were suggested in those
    articles and
     >      >     they have
     >      >      >
     >      >      > had no affect.
     >      >      >
     >      >      > There is no firewall in the way. AD replication and
    FRS work.
     >      >      >
     >      >      > Any ideas before I rip it out?
     >      >      >
     >      >      >       al
     >      >      >
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